CBA is a TURD
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CBA is a TURD
CBA with no min staffing levels. Classic pathetic QOL issues. Reserve grids all in red prior to the month even starting. Way to go ALPA. Even Spirit has min staffing levels. Our 13 Reps with voting rights hung this group out to dry.
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Yep. All ALPAs fault. Boooo hisssss BOOOOOOO!!
Alpa has 100% control over hiring pairing builds and they gave away profit sharing.....
Huh.
Maybe you’ve never seen a summer time at blue jet. But this one is no different, and it has nothing to do with alpa.
Alpa has 100% control over hiring pairing builds and they gave away profit sharing.....
Huh.
Maybe you’ve never seen a summer time at blue jet. But this one is no different, and it has nothing to do with alpa.
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Also, it’s been like this every summer since I’ve been here. Not sure what you were expecting?
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The main driver for staffing is the vacation section. That is just now in its infancy. The upgrades and hiring on the last bid were the biggest I’ve seen in 8 years.
I’ll take another assessment next summer and make my full judgement on the CBA then.
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I’ll take another assessment next summer and make my full judgement on the CBA then.
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Turd or not... WE voted it in (no percentages listed, WE did it).
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This is really on the pilot group, though. From the perspective of ALPA negotiators and leadership, if they got the best that they were able to get and sent it to the group:
A. The group votes it in, then they did their job
B. If the group turns it down, then they would have more leverage in negotiating TA 2.0
The pilot group told them if it was A or B. I think the pilot group is a little green overall when it comes to unions and negotiating. Maybe they will feel empowered by having some improvements and we'll go back to the table for CBA 2 with a little more unity and toughness.
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Had we voted no, we would all still be working for lower wages, most likely into next year
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That said, there are some wins and losses with this contract and what works for 1 may not work fit someone else.
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I’m up 39k YTD. Will likely make +/- 80k more this year than last year (unless I switch seats.) Same seat, same base. The ADG is a game changer for my preferred type of trip.
That said, there are some wins and losses with this contract and what works for 1 may not work fit someone else.
That said, there are some wins and losses with this contract and what works for 1 may not work fit someone else.
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