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Old 10-24-2019 | 08:58 PM
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Using BlueJet’s formula, instead of DAL’s, with DAL pre tax income and eligible wages would produce a lower profit sharing percentage for DAL employees.

Using DAL’s, instead of BlueJet’s formula, with BlueJet’s pretax income and eligible wages would produce a larger profit sharing percentage for BlueJet employees.

Simple as that.
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Old 10-25-2019 | 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jtrain609
Delta made $1.5 billion in the third quarter alone. It's not their profit sharing formula that produces results, it's that Delta as a company generates more income than JetBlue.

https://s2.q4cdn.com/181345880/files...ter-Profit.pdf

In 2018 Delta made $10 billion.

https://s2.q4cdn.com/181345880/files...018-Profit.pdf
The formula is rotten to the core. Last year the profit sharing payout was .2%.

If not for the 5% cliff which is absolutely unique to JB (5% cliff simply means JB keeps the first 5% of profit sharing for pilots, for themselves), the payout would have been 5.2%. That's still with the non-standard 10% of pre-tax earnings pool. If the profit sharing pool was the more industry standard 15%, which coincidentally is what it was just a few years ago at JB, the payout would have been 7.53% of your wages.

Those two seemingly innocuous provisions that are unique (the 5% cliff) or nearly unique (10% of pre-tax earnings instead of the more standard 15%) removed 97.34% of the profit sharing payout. 97.34% of the payout wiped out by
2 small adjustments to the formula. It's the FORMULA that's rotten. Because culture and values.
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Old 10-25-2019 | 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 360KIAS
Good thing we got a raise instead of counting on PS to pay the bills.
This is an absolutely stupid statement...
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Old 10-25-2019 | 04:44 AM
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This is why I laugh when they want me to wait on apu etc to save money. Why go out of my way when I don’t. See a dime
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Old 10-25-2019 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by SaintNick
This is why I laugh when they want me to wait on apu etc to save money. Why go out of my way when I don’t. See a dime
There's really nothing to wait for. FCOM says passenger comfort trumps D10, cabin should be ~76deg.

too hot turn on APU. too cold turn on APU. Seems pretty self explanatory to me but yet... so hard for some.
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Old 10-25-2019 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
If not for the 5% cliff which is absolutely unique to JB (5% cliff simply means JB keeps the first 5% of profit sharing for pilots, for themselves), the payout would have been 5.2%. That's still with the non-standard 10% of pre-tax earnings pool. If the profit sharing pool was the more industry standard 15%, which coincidentally is what it was just a few years ago at JB, the payout would have been 7.53% of your wages.
7.8%. Adjust your remaining figures accordingly. About 97% of the profit sharing payout was wiped out due to the cliff and non standard 10%. But we did get 8% more pay for a year or so before increasing our base rate to industry trailing again. Not a typo.
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Old 10-25-2019 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Blue Dude
7.8%. Adjust your remaining figures accordingly. About 97% of the profit sharing payout was wiped out due to the cliff and non standard 10%. But we did get 8% more pay for a year or so before increasing our base rate to industry trailing again. Not a typo.
Bingo ...

The company is in better shape than it has ever been and PS disappeared.

That was intentional. The colored charts and carrying tone from management is simply the culture in full display.
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Old 10-25-2019 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Blue Dude
7.8%. Adjust your remaining figures accordingly. About 97% of the profit sharing payout was wiped out due to the cliff and non standard 10%. But we did get 8% more pay for a year or so before increasing our base rate to industry trailing again. Not a typo.
Yep, fat fingered some maffs. Reality is even worse than my example, go figure.
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Old 10-25-2019 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Blue Dude
But we did get 8% more pay for a year or so before increasing our base rate to industry trailing again. Not a typo.
Oh and don't forget, each May we fall further behind with our meager 2% raise.
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Old 10-25-2019 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Rabid Seagull
Oh and don't forget, each May we fall further behind with our meager 2% raise.
Because culture. And values.
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