Enhance safety in what ways? The HUD seems like a gimmick when auto land is an option. I’ll be content if I never fly a plane with a HUD again.

I totally agree with you. Although the 190 HUD is kind of a gimmick the corporate aircraft I flew with enhanced vision added an amazing amount of safety and wasn’t in the way at all. If I had to choose between a robust EVS HUD and autoland I would choose the HUD with EVS every time if you add a Synthetic vision option on there and there is no argument on which is more safe. Of course autoland is the far cheaper option.

👆🏼This.
HUD is rarely operationally useful, takes up huge space, and frankly causes more problems than it solves while wasting time staying current on useless options. Not to mention the functional loss of skill for those who over use it.

Somebody close this thread before they change their minds and install HUDs.

They got burned by the dual huds. Our SOPs are so built around the huds that our simulators are the only ones usable for training because they are the only ones so equipped. Now when they need the sims for training we have only have 2, thanks to a certain upper manager.

They wanted the huds because we had a fighter pilot in the position to make that decision....and what does it give us? 300 RVR takeoff capability on some runways that we don’t fly to... When was the last time you took off in actual 500 rvr? Been on the plane 8 years and I’ve done actual 500 twice and never done lower (I’d rather not) other than the sim. The 190 is capable of cat 3 autoland but the hud gives it both the lower TO min and cat 3 (hand flown). They didn’t want to pay for both so they got the huds...now they have the training roadblock

Cmon on. It’s fun hand flying down to 50’ at a million knots in the sim once a year hoping you don’t ball up the last 30’ where you’re trying to decided whether you actually see the lights in that low definition pixilated blob of gray graphic-ie mess. Mean while hoping I haven’t died durning the last 30’ feet so the FO doesn’t have to finish the job.

I like to make sure my fo is engaged and attentive during the couples approach. Light touching of the hand and whispers of “just let it happen”...

GUARD MY THROTTLES!

glad I wasn’t drinking my morning coffee while reading this!

Couples approach 🤣🤣

I like the new tail.

Gorgeous! I am betting it will become a popular fleet pretty quick. The Delta guys I have talked to who fly it seem to like it.

Nice to see them put the tail scheme on the inside of the winglets. Have been thinking that would look nice for years, I just haven’t had the time to do it yet.

Latest rumor is the Supplemental bid will be mid-December??? I heard everything from November to they don’t know anything until next year?

Flight ops VP said it’s looking like mid December. Hopefully not too many displacements (wishful thinking on my part). I’m thinking it will coincide with the dot approval with AA, that way they will have a better network outlook + fleet plan going into 21’

JB pilot wives says we got a new hire Class in March.

If true, maybe it’s for those few that were cut off mid training or just prior to starting?

Lol. Heard that one from my wife last night as well. Have a buddy that was in the class that was supposed to start that they canceled back in March when COVID started up. He says he hasn't heard anything. But if the AA thing gets approval maybe we will need to start hiring again but man I just don't see it.

Of course everyone knows the JB Wives FB group is the gold standard for accurate rumors here at B6 so it must be true.....

Ive heard from OSC new-hire classes in August if things don’t take a dive. A220 will have 17 CA’s and 17 FO’s on the first bid.

August timeframe seems much more realistic.

Just spoke with a captain who also said OSC is planning an August class.

I’d be shocked with ANY hiring next year.

Against my better judgement, I just asked my wife about the rumor on pilot’s wives, and she confirmed it 😂They’re talking about a March class

My wife confirmed it as well. If she said it it must be true...

Just talked to one of the training supervisors.

Definitely maybe.

I don’t think people understand that more lockdowns are coming. Look at Europe, look at our new president. People are in denial. Now, how many people go along with another lockdown is another story. I’m guessing support for such an endeavor will be much lower this time around.

Yeah shut down America, first agenda. Nothing better than kicking the man while he’s down already.

nah, Biden will put in a 2 week national mask mandate and the numbers will magically dump and they will actually declare victory with Biden being the savior of the Plandemic. oh did I say plandemic I meant pandemic..

They’re not working on national vaccination programs and travel certificates for nothing. Plandemic will have a little more use than just the election I’m afraid. Overtourism was a huge issue and they’re not going to let this ‘crisis’ go to waste.

Agreed, lots of resets yet to come. No good letting a crisis go to waste..

Happy New Year!

The A220 has finally arrived! Predictions on how low the bid will go for both seats? How many A220s expected to arrive this year?

I hear the CA side went really senior. Like low one thousands for the plug.

As of now, 7 a220s in 2021 and 8 in 2022. And 5 NEOs plus 3 LRs for 2021.

Thats surprising to hear. Unless there are those that don’t know you can put in a percentage bid.

Either way, having two fleets with comparable pay rates is good for everyone vs the Airbus/190 disparity we have now.

Assume you guys get paid the same on the 220. Senior guys might just want to do turns and such.

The 220 is roughly $10 less an hour than the 320. And people can want to do just turns, but with as senior as it went and small as the number of 220 pilots will be for 2021 and 2022, that likely won’t be possible for the vast majority of them. They would be better off on the 190 if they want to do turns, or probably even 320 until more show up. The thing is this bid was a blind bid with zero knowledge of trip types, destinations, relative seniority, etc. There are a lot of senior BOS guys thinking they’d be more senior on the 220 than the 320, which is likely to be the case eventually, but with such a small/early contingent, I don’t think that will be the case this go round. Or even the next. It will take a while to build up and play out. I’m betting a lot of these guys would be better off in the bus...at least the bottom 25% of the 220 bid, if what I heard about how senior it went was accurate.

How senior are we talking? What about the FO side?

I heard it barely went into the thousands. No idea on the FO side...haven’t heard a thing.

that’s just crazy stupid. The bottom guy will be on rsv more then they have in their career here.

soooooo you just happen to get the CA bid award possibility from someone but not the FO bid award from them?

fake news bro.

1-4100 number in both seats.

I heard CA plug went 1500-1600.