Yikes... who would want to be rsv plug at 1500 seniority without knowing anything regarding trip quality, or even just remotely close to the bottom. Kiss any good vacation weeks or holidays goodbye for a long time. But then again, to each his own and every situation is different for every pilot... whatever floats your boat!

heard it’s going to the new hire, hired in q10 of 2021

Maybe he didn't give any F's about the FO plug. I'm interested in the number for the CA plug but don't give ANY F's about what the FO plug is, as I'm sure many/most dudes feel pretty much the same.

Not sure why you think he's making it up based on what he said.
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Some people are willing to take the two year risk to see what happens I guess. Roll the dice and maybe the A220 life ends up being great. Worse case you cut your losses and return to your previous position. Two years in the airline world goes quickly. It really only took a small number of senior guys to bid it and make it senior initially. This wasn’t a 500 pilot bid.

yeah...2 years commuting to short call reserve after 6 weeks of training at the lodge...no big deal lol.

Well no...your freeze begins when you start Home Study. By the time you wait for OE with only a few A220’s flying around in the system, your time on the line will should be less than two years if you want it to be. If all you’re accustomed to at #1500 are redeyes on the weekend, the risk might be worth it. There’s also some that sit reserve by choice and live in base and yes those that’ll immediately regret their decision.

cuz Ted striker just proved my point. He said 1500-1600

soooo what is it. 900? 1500? 1600? 4000? Or is it safe to assume that like 12 people actually know and none of them are most likely at liberty to say?

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I don't consider "barely into the thousand" much different than 1,500-1,600.

​I definitely don't think he made it up or pulled it out of his Lift Award...

barely into 1,000 is roughly 1500-1600? Mmmm what?

No, it's not. It's also not 2,000~ like probably most expected as evidenced by people being astounded that someone at 1,500-1,600 would choose to be the plug.

That was his interpretation/characterization of what his source told him. That doesn't mean he made it up, and maybe his source was intentionally vague.

Not sure why you have to so abrasive with everyone, all the time.

It’s what I heard from a guy who is relatively credible. Could be 1001, it could be 3 guys over 1,000 with the bottom being 1500, it could even be 50 guys all junior to 1,000. He didn’t specify. The takeaway is it supposedly went senior AF, and I frankly dgaf if you don’t like my possible inaccuracy or lack of specificity. Obviously the people who allegedly know and shared the info aren’t at liberty to do so, and so I’m guessing I got vague info for a reason. And it could be wrong. I’m simply passing on what I heard, and I specifically caveated my claim with “I heard” iirc. So, listen to it, argue it, tell me 220 CA went somewhere between 1-4100...I don’t care. I also don’t care about the FO 220 bid and didn’t bother asking.

Why would anyone be surprised it went senior. I’m sure the FO side went relatively senior too.

The plug going senior?

Why would anyone with good seniority choose to be the PLUG, just to be on a new airplane? The plug is almost universally a position pilots don't want to be.

Why would you want to be the PLUG on the A220 instead of 20-30% off the bottom, or better, on the A320 Roy?

I have no idea, but I’ve heard a myriad of reasons for senior people bidding it...that I’ve spoken to anyway. Gave me the impression it was going senior on both seats. Why anyone would bid into the blind is beyond me. It’s a new toy that pays well, so who knows 🤷🏻‍♂️

Ha, indeed. I had heard the same, that lots of senior people were going to bid it, but I assumed they would use a percentage bid to prevent them from going from 70% in seat to 100% in seat.... Apparently, I might have been way off.

I haven't heard anything about the bid results but I can answer your question. Some guys just need to be in the first class. Do you know how to find out if you are flying with someone who was in the first or second 190 class? They'll tell you. They see it as a badge of honor. I'm not sure why. Maybe it makes them feel like they were test pilots.

I’m just thinking... SCR.... gonna pass on that. Guess it’s different if you live “local.”

You know what, you're correct, they will tell you. That's probably a big part of the explanation.

#notthisguy

Just tell them it doesn’t count. Fleet manager, CKA, etc got to go first. Just tell them they are no different than Columbus “discovering” America.

Wait, you guys talk to RJ pilots? I thought we got rid of all those by now.

Only “initial cadre” pilots count. So just ask if they were part of that. Otherwise they’re just a line pilot like the rest of us.

It’s like when someone puts the 26.2 marathon sticker on their car. Well did you win? No? Okay then. If you’re not first we all get the same medal. Or fly the same metal. 😎

In the wise words of Ricky, "if you ain't first, you're last", God rest his soul.

Bid should be out any day now...

Please let it be awarded to super senior 190 CAs in BOS. Totally for personal reasons of course...

Not to be a downer but....

If there is no back fill your relative seniority actually drops [emoji23][emoji23]


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And the hits just keep on coming...😄

If you are say 200/250 (so 80% in base), and 50 people above you go to the 220 with no backfill, you’ll then be 150/200, or 75%, which seems like better seniority to me. I think it hurts if you’re say 25/250 (10%), and 50 people below you leave, and you become 25/200 (12.5%).

You forgot to use 3.14159265359 somewhere in your maffs. No points awarded...

You have to multiply by the ALV, then divide by the Bid Divisor, raise to the power of your pto accrual, then use Pi somewhere.

😂

Wait ... we have PTO accrual????

I was told my seniority would hold the 0800 BOS-MSY day turn. Home for dinner. And since the 220 is bigger then the 190 the Co was adding :05 to the turn time, so after I help clean there would be more time to get some Jambalaya. QOL #1

that’s what I was told!

Cafe Du Monde is inside security in the new terminal. Beignets can now be had immediately after cleaning. Your 5 min extra block is therefore revoked.

Is today the day!?

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Did they dump a bunch of bus flying on 190 BOS? Last month first day open time window...zero trips. Today, quite a few 3 days and a couple 2 and 4s mixed in.

Doesn’t look like it, thought it would come out today. I guess we’re on to next week.

schoolhouse rumor is junior A220 CA went into the 1700's

how about FO?

Lol...apparently no one cares. Maybe they’re testing out single pilot ops.