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Phil Laschio 04-26-2020 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by Descendto450 (Post 3042168)
that won’t be the case this year. And he is an FO not a Captain who had LGB as his blue city. The rules changed late last year he will now get called after all the in base FO’s in LGB. (that is how it’s supposed to work upon full implementation of the CBA) and yes he averaged over 200 credit hours per month at 12 yr 320 FO rates.

I’m slow on the draw. The company flew a pilot to and from LGB to cover JFK trips and did so at VDA? The LGB connection is throwing me.

ClncClarence 04-26-2020 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by Phil Laschio (Post 3042325)
I’m slow on the draw. The company flew a pilot to and from LGB to cover JFK trips and did so at VDA? The LGB connection is throwing me.

The story I’ve heard is that he was JFK based but lived in LGB. He would pick up VDA in LGB but since he wasn’t based there he would collect round trip DH pay for anything picked up...which is (was) like 11 hours at 190% before the engines even start turning...for every trip.

Boomer 04-26-2020 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by Descendto450 (Post 3042168)
that won’t be the case this year. And he is an FO not a Captain who had LGB as his blue city. The rules changed late last year he will now get called after all the in base FO’s in LGB. (that is how it’s supposed to work upon full implementation of the CBA) and yes he averaged over 200 credit hours per month at 12 yr 320 FO rates.

The earlier hypothetical showed that a CA would have to credit at least 200 VDA hours every month.

nuball5 04-26-2020 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 3042368)
The earlier hypothetical showed that a CA would have to credit at least 200 VDA hours every month.

It definitely happened. It’s 1 pilot out of 4,000 on property. There’s always a couple random cases like that. The special runs to El Salvador is another example.

Descendto450 04-26-2020 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 3042368)
The earlier hypothetical showed that a CA would have to credit at least 200 VDA hours every month.

I can’t confirm that one but I can confirm the 200 hr (take home credit) pilot that was available VDA in LGB is a super senior FO not based in LGB. The rules have changed and the pilot isn’t getting that kinda credit anymore. That was all I was confirming I didn’t read earlier posts. I know some senior captains that were dumping their entire schedule to get VDA but 200hrs at VDA rates would be pretty amazing, I guess in theory it’s possible but that would be well over 1.3 million. The earlier calculation didn’t include the retirement matching to goes on your check once you have hit 401K/VEBA max. It adds up with that calculation 1.2 million is closer to 180 VDA hrs per month, still hard to believe. Just ball-parking it by the way I haven’t put a lot of effort into the math side of this scenario.

say again 04-26-2020 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by Descendto450 (Post 3042380)
I can’t confirm that one but I can confirm the 200 hr (take home credit) pilot that was available VDA in LGB is a super senior FO not based in LGB. The rules have changed and the pilot isn’t getting that kinda credit anymore. That was all I was confirming I didn’t read earlier posts. I know some senior captains that were dumping their entire schedule to get VDA but 200hrs at VDA rates would be pretty amazing, I guess in theory it’s possible but that would be well over 1.3 million. The earlier calculation didn’t include the retirement matching to goes on your check once you have hit 401K/VEBA max. It adds up with that calculation 1.2 million is closer to 180 VDA hrs per month, still hard to believe. Just ball-parking it by the way I haven’t put a lot of effort into the math side of this scenario.

Sucks for that FO....

feltf4 04-26-2020 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by nuball5 (Post 3042372)
It definitely happened. It’s 1 pilot out of 4,000 on property. There’s always a couple random cases like that. The special runs to El Salvador is another example.

Oh yeah this is complete garbage. The 190 guys getting bought off trips and paid at VDA for 4 days to fly to SAL Over and over and over again. But I cannot call up and ask for them to make and exception to put me on a DH that’s 29 minutes after block in VS 3.5 hour later? Because “contract”... where does it say in the contract that only a handful of guys can fly those? Where is the bid for special training to fly to SAL? Rubbish.

Phil Laschio 04-26-2020 04:39 PM

Did the LGB pilot use his 1.2 million to buy a 2 bedroom, zero lot line, 800 sq feet ranch home built in 1967?:D

So after CA taxes he got.... like 159K? Joking! We’re pilots. He’s got a sister that lives in TX and uses that address to bilk the state government out of taxes. Purely hypothetical. And I don’t know that, but....we’re pilots.

Noworkallplay 04-26-2020 07:58 PM

So what we found out is that it was a FO and not a Capt and it was just a few months. Ok so once again this is a camp fire story. Didn’t happen. Just do the math it don’t make sense.

SaintNick 04-26-2020 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by Noworkallplay (Post 3042584)
So what we found out is that it was a FO and not a Capt and it was just a few months. Ok so once again this is a camp fire story. Didn’t happen. Just do the math it don’t make sense.

two different stories. One was 190, another 320. I know personally the 190 pay to be true.


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