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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
(Post 3492944)
Let's start with the fact that by the time the arbitrator sits down on his bum to hear the case, most of the E190s will already be parked...
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
(Post 3492946)
I think you will be very disappointed. But, if that's how you want it, then the 319 will be considered a smaller "category" and grouped with the A220-300. The E190s will be gone or almost gone when the Arbitrator sits down to hear the case, and JB has far more A321s than NK, which will be in yet a higher status "category", and net-net this will all favour JB.
Or you can stop misusing the idea of categories and stop having strange fantasies about how you can find a way to screw JB pilots on an SLI. And if you want to continue you can PM me. |
Originally Posted by Bluedriver
(Post 3492968)
Good story, but there won't be a mediator...
It'll be an arbitrator. 😂 arbitrator[ ahr-bi-trey-ter ]noun a person chosen to decide a dispute or settle differences, especially one formally empowered to examine the facts and decide the issue. |
Any practical examples of McCaskill-Bond?
Never mind…. JCBA first.
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
(Post 3493177)
PotAto, PotAhto, but if it makes your day to count coup on that one you are welcome to it. It bothers me not a whit.
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
(Post 3493016)
Let's start with the fact that that date doesn't matter, it's actual fleet, the date it was announced, and you had plenty of those RJs then.
My mortgage is due in a few weeks. I called the bank and asked if I could pay them with MTGW or aircraft range/payload, they said no, must be DOLLARS. I will let the arbitrator know that my bank only accepts DOLLARS and not aircraft tonnage, and he will use pay rates for "category", and it's of course the rates that were in place on the date of merger announcement... Based on that, all NK CAs will be integrated below all JB CAs, and all NK FOs will be slotted below all JB FOs. A fifth "category" will be created for all 1st year NK pilots because of the terribly low 1st year pay, and all NK pilots hired after merger announcement will be placed in the lowest "category". Or, you can stop trying to fantasize about ways to screw JB pilots out of a fair integration. |
Date of hire. Own your seniority. 😂
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Originally Posted by Cockpit997
(Post 3493303)
Date of hire. Own your seniority. 😂
I’m not sure, when you look at the recent pay raises in the regionals , that either airline management can hope to stretch out current contracts to a JCBA. If they don’t start dickering soon and getting out some seriously improved agreements as a bridge to the JCBA, today’s lineholding CAs may be the only ones left from the merger announcement date - assuming either company survives. In the current environment, two and a half years is an eternity. |
Originally Posted by Excargodog
(Post 3493316)
If both companies don’t rein in their attrition it won’t be date of hire, it’ll be last man standing. Except for line holding CAs. Especially for NK. Especially when legacies are having a shorter upgrade time than either NK or B6, granted, in some of their less desirable domiciles, but even so.
I’m not sure, when you look at the recent pay raises in the regionals , that either airline management can hope to stretch out current contracts to a JCBA. If they don’t start dickering soon and getting out some seriously improved agreements as a bridge to the JCBA, today’s lineholding CAs may be the only ones left from the merger announcement date - assuming either company survives. In the current environment, two and a half years is an eternity. |
Originally Posted by Bluedriver
(Post 3493296)
You know what else was in place the day the merger was announced? The retirement announcement of the E190 fleet... So your fantasy of stapling several hundred JB pilots to the bottom of the list below every NK pilot based on the E190 isn't going to happen. The only aircraft the arbitrator will consider are the A220-300 and A320 variants.
My mortgage is due in a few weeks. I called the bank and asked if I could pay them with MTGW or aircraft range/payload, they said no, must be DOLLARS. I will let the arbitrator know that my bank only accepts DOLLARS and not aircraft tonnage, and he will use pay rates for "category", and it's of course the rates that were in place on the date of merger announcement... Based on that, all NK CAs will be integrated below all JB CAs, and all NK FOs will be slotted below all JB FOs. A fifth "category" will be created for all 1st year NK pilots because of the terribly low 1st year pay, and all NK pilots hired after merger announcement will be placed in the lowest "category". Or, you can stop trying to fantasize about ways to screw JB pilots out of a fair integration. |
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