And this is why you always take the first offer.

- JBU MEC

So, not complaining, just saying.... Almost 10 years at NK. 19%RS. If we go straight DOH I think I will be around 38%RS, At 50/50 I will be around 30%RS. So definitely more than 5%. And I would go from bidding 35% as captain in base to lower than 80% and on reserve, because of the addition of the A220. Yeah, I could bid those, but I would have to commute to the east coast. Also, I do realize that this is a forward looking statement, and there is no guarantee any of this will happen. Just being cautiously pessimistic.

How do you figure your RS bidding in base will be affected by an A220 in a different base?

Just curious on your methodology or thinking on that issue.

Not only that but post merger will have more bases for dilution.

People move base? If people junior to me can be more senior on the more junior jet, it will be beneficial to go there? Like it takes more seniority at DL to be a WB captain vs a NB captain? And if your base doesn't have that equipment, you will move down? Honestly cannot believe you even ask that question? Math?
We are going from 2 groups to 4 groups for the NK joiners. I assume the seniority order will be 320CA, 220CA, 320FO, 220FO. Every 220CA directly cuts into the RS of any 320CA.

i agree with the other guy. how do you figure you go from bidding 35% as captain in base to lower than 80% and on reserve because the a220 is in some other base? how does that "math" work? i mean, you're not just talking about the combination of the seniority lists, you're talking about people changing bases and equipment and upgrading and downgrading and everything even after the combination of the seniority lists. that's a lot of "if this happens, this will be the result" type of thinking, and i don't see how you can just put it down to "math". if you are that good at predicting the results of that many moving parts, i would like you to tell me the powerball numbers for tomorrow night.

I’m gonna jump on the bandwagon here too. Although theoretically possible that you could go from bidding 35% in base to less than 80%, it’s completely unlikely and not even worth mentioning even if you’re “not complaining”

Pay rates on A220 vs A320 is very close and not remotely similar to widebody vs narrowbody pay at legacies. You’re also assuming everyone other than you will choose to commute to the A220 on the east coast for better seniority. If you’re not willing to do it, chances are others won’t either, not that it would offer much different seniority anyway.

Its good to be cautiously pessimistic, but voicing it can cause a B1tchf3st pretty fast

Thank Joseph I’ve been through a merger and can swipe past these incorrect assumptions on the ISL

Spirit is the junior
JBlu is the senior

Spirit will lose relative seniority
JBLU will lose longevity.

Both sides will complain about getting screwed

Personally, looking forward to the new airline and scoring a top end JCBA

Best advice to give to guys on their first merger; it will be ok, breathe.

With AA/US merger, everything was under consideration. You’re lucky to have no furloughees, but the 3 fleets at JetBlue could cause some unexpected “stove piping”.

With arbitration each side will pitch their list (with reasoning) and the arbitrator will create a compromise list after analyzing the argument.

Isn't it most likely that the 190 fleet will be gone before integrating?