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Excargodog 12-14-2022 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3492785)
But is it?
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Yes, I already gave you some basic points on the subject.

As for revenue sharing, of course we would all want that. We can't (yet) even get B6 management to give us profit sharing (despite many efforts), which is only paid when the company is making money (and supposedly so easy to get out of... (It's not)), yet you think these same executives are just gonna let us tax their revenue, all the time, whether times are good or bad?

IF I did drugs, I'd ask you to share, because that has to be some good stuff you're using...

as Wayne Gretzky once said, you miss 100% of the shots you don’t take.

Climbto450 12-14-2022 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by PossibleDeviation (Post 3551842)
Neither has JB……

actually we got a 3% pay raise earlier this year for selling off our scope just to get on par (a tiny bit above) with Delta’s 4 year old rates.

Desdi 12-14-2022 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by Climbto450 (Post 3551889)
actually we got a 3% pay raise earlier this year for selling off our scope just to get on par (a tiny bit above) with Delta’s 4 year old rates.

No we didn’t, that was just called a raise because most of our group doesn’t realize once a contract is amendable the foregone annual step increases in pay (however long it takes) are traditionally represented in the next CBA’s signing bonus. So in otherwords we were paid off by money we already had coming to us!

fcoolaiddrinker 12-14-2022 03:19 PM

I believe all DL 320 soft pay is at thier 321 rates so you might as well use those numbers. Or get that provision along with the separate scale.

Climbto450 12-14-2022 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by Desdi (Post 3551890)
No we didn’t, that was just called a raise because most of our group doesn’t realize once a contract is amendable the foregone annual step increases in pay (however long it takes) are traditionally represented in the next CBA’s signing bonus. So in otherwords we were paid off by money we already had coming to us!

I agree with your perspective here but the point was we were bought off cheap just to get us in the ballpark of DL’s pay rates. Yes you are correct in that Our group traded scope for money that we would have got in time. I hope our group shows a little more backbone this time around.

Bgood 12-14-2022 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by Climbto450 (Post 3551930)
I agree with your perspective here but the point was we were bought off cheap just to get us in the ballpark of DL’s pay rates. Yes you are correct in that Our group traded scope for money that we would have got in time. I hope our group shows a little more backbone this time around.

Damn. I just got over this and now I'm triggered again sigh. I hope the MEC saves us from ourselves this time around.

dualinput 12-14-2022 04:49 PM

Any news from the NC today? Spirit guy here

dontsurf 12-14-2022 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by dualinput (Post 3551946)
Any news from the NC today? Spirit guy here

no word yet. I don't know if that's good or bad.

nuball5 12-14-2022 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by dualinput (Post 3551946)
Any news from the NC today? Spirit guy here


Still in the room talking apparently. Or still was a hour ago.

Roy Biggins 12-14-2022 04:56 PM

If neither side has told the other to go kick rocks by now, that might actually be a good sign.


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