Originally Posted by I was inverted (Post 3551633)

Alaska gets 5-10% on top of their regular pay every year as a performance bonus/profit sharing deal. So, if jetblue got not much higher than Alaska with no profit sharing, Alaska comes out 5-10% ahead in comp. Not to mention they have a 5:15 ADG now. And a snap up. And the B6 pilot group is 50% larger than the Alaska pilot group, for those who argue that size matters. So, a couple bucks over Alaska with no PS would be a terrible deal.

Originally Posted by I was inverted (Post 3551633)

Alaska gets 5-10% on top of their regular pay every year as a performance bonus/profit sharing deal. So, if jetblue got not much higher than Alaska with no profit sharing, Alaska comes out 5-10% ahead in comp. Not to mention they have a 5:15 ADG now. And a snap up. And the B6 pilot group is 50% larger than the Alaska pilot group, for those who argue that size matters. So, a couple bucks over Alaska with no PS would be a terrible deal.

Originally Posted by I was inverted (Post 3551633)

Alaska gets 5-10% on top of their regular pay every year as a performance bonus/profit sharing deal. So, if jetblue got not much higher than Alaska with no profit sharing, Alaska comes out 5-10% ahead in comp. Not to mention they have a 5:15 ADG now. And a snap up. And the B6 pilot group is 50% larger than the Alaska pilot group, for those who argue that size matters. So, a couple bucks over Alaska with no PS would be a terrible deal.

Originally Posted by panpanpan (Post 3551621)

Anyone who is expecting Delta+ rates with a snap up is dreaming. Remember, we got 3% last time in a pilots market. I don’t expect anything much higher than AK rates.

Originally Posted by stanherman (Post 3551558)

Agreed, the optimism that somehow the company is just going to play ball is mind boggling. It’ll be war, probably around 6pm when they send the we asked they said no email. I guess big picture is we will find out whether or not retention is a concern or not.

Originally Posted by antbar01 (Post 3551708)

I am genuinely surprised at how many people seem to think that this bargaining environment is anything like a year ago, or two years ago, or 10 years ago, or any time since the 1930s.

This is a different world. Jetblue has a bunch of airplanes coming and is fixing to have a negative head count to fly them. If they could they’d be hiring private pilots and jamming them through like they did prior to WWII, but they can’t.

Originally Posted by PSU Flyer (Post 3551641)

You do realize that our pay rates are currently higher than Delta’s, right? There’s no reason we should settle for less this time around either.

Originally Posted by antbar01 (Post 3551708)

If they could they’d be hiring private pilots and jamming them through like they did prior to WWII, but they can’t.

Originally Posted by panpanpan (Post 3551723)

Look at A321 rates. How are our rates higher than Delta’s?