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Old 11-29-2022, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by I was inverted View Post
I think his “debt to society” actually ends in 2044.
That guy is just a troll bouncing between forums spouting opinions on subjects that don’t affect him….as such pay him no mind!
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Old 11-30-2022, 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Wingedbeast View Post
Lot of bigots here.
He paid his debt to society. He's moved on so should you.
As long as he isn't flying with my family in the back.
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Old 11-30-2022, 03:22 AM
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Would those of you saying we should all move on and let him live his life/pursue his career feel the same way if it was YOUR home he invaded and YOUR daughter he attacked in a premeditated plan?!
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Old 11-30-2022, 03:50 AM
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Would those of you saying we should all move on and let him live his life/pursue his career feel the same way if it was YOUR home he invaded and YOUR daughter he attacked in a premeditated plan?!
I believe in redemption with limitations. Do we have recovering alcoholics flying airliners, YES. There are mechanisms in place to ensure the publics safety and provide the pilot with support. How do we protect the public from a violent felon? How do we protect the employees of a company? Being released from prison solely means the inmate completed a sentence, nothing more - nothing less. Recidivism rates for violent felons are extremely high and that is what managements are gambling on. In addition, what was the age of the offender at the time the crime was committed. Can you argue a teen or you adult can be rehabilitated? Can you make the same argument for someone who committed a violent crime in their 30s or 40s? I would argue displaying a propensity for violence later in life is not something a prison sentence is going to change. For argument sake do alcoholics relapse, absolutely, the difference being the violent aspect of the original offense.
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Old 11-30-2022, 04:42 AM
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I believe in redemption with limitations. Do we have recovering alcoholics flying airliners, YES. There are mechanisms in place to ensure the publics safety and provide the pilot with support. How do we protect the public from a violent felon? How do we protect the employees of a company? Being released from prison solely means the inmate completed a sentence, nothing more - nothing less. Recidivism rates for violent felons are extremely high and that is what managements are gambling on. In addition, what was the age of the offender at the time the crime was committed. Can you argue a teen or you adult can be rehabilitated? Can you make the same argument for someone who committed a violent crime in their 30s or 40s? I would argue displaying a propensity for violence later in life is not something a prison sentence is going to change. For argument sake do alcoholics relapse, absolutely, the difference being the violent aspect of the original offense.

These are all very good points, especially about the age at which the offense was committed and the type of offense as well.

It’s one thing to say he has paid his debt to society, which I don’t think that technically happens until he is done with probation. But that doesn’t mean that the ex-felon gets to do whatever the law allows. We do have some societal norms that have previously prevented these types of situations. For example, do we allow convicted pedophiles to teach in grade school? And I think there are some laws that expressly prevent certain convicts to work in certain professions. It’s just that recently these norms have increasingly come under attack. I don’t know if this is the case here but it would set a precedent for a new norm, I believe.

He should be allowed to pursue happiness and make living. But I don’t feel that necessarily means he should be able to do whatever he wants as far as career choice. I sincerely hope he has gotten whatever help he needed and has repented.
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Old 11-30-2022, 05:16 AM
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This guy flew nuclear bombers for a living. The military has (sorry… used to have) a special vetting process for those guys.

I am sure when he was arrested for this crime, the USAF chain of command from top down and back up again asked themselves “How did this guy slip through the cracks, how could we have seen this coming, and how do we modify our screening process to make sure we never again bring a pilot with his flaws into our ranks?”

In other words, how do we reduce the threat to zero?

Not JetBlue. They just ask “What are the odds this guy will snap a second time? Less than 50/50? Hired!”
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Old 11-30-2022, 05:29 AM
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Pretty sure this guy couldn’t even become a CNA wiping peoples a$$3s.
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Old 11-30-2022, 06:01 AM
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It's well known guys don't pass the full background check until well after training start, or longer.

Until proven otherwise, I refuse to believe the company knew about this before hiring.
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Old 11-30-2022, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver View Post
It's well known guys don't pass the full background check until well after training start, or longer.

Until proven otherwise, I refuse to believe the company knew about this before hiring.
What about the employment gap?
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Old 11-30-2022, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by PSU Flyer View Post
What about the employment gap?
making license plates or working the kitchen is employment.
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