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Ejet17589 12-15-2022 05:59 PM

Interview next month JB
 
I am at a rate of 164$ per hour Capt at my current company. I know you guys don’t wanna mention the numbers but how is it looking year 1 FO?

814Pilot 12-15-2022 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by Bocaflyer (Post 3552854)
I was on a call during Covid when WC said the PS wasn’t good enough and they promise to fix it. Well fix it then. I’m a hard no without PS; it’s leaving $40K a year on the table for the next 5 years for a single $17K signing bonus.

$40K a year? based on What? You’re not gonna just get a Delta profit sharing check when the company dosent even make even close to the amount of profit Delta makes….

Bluedriver 12-15-2022 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by Ejet17589 (Post 3552882)
I am at a rate of 164$ per hour Capt at my current company. I know you guys don’t wanna mention the numbers but how is it looking year 1 FO?

1st year is $100.00. $102 in Aug 2023.

IAFDOF 12-15-2022 06:06 PM

If someone can answer without being unpleasant, I’m genuinely curious…

Say we vote this down. Then what? We keep our current rates for how long… another month before a new TA is offered? A year? 4 years, like precious Delta? How do you see these negotiations going that it’s worth voting down these rates with a snap-up?

We negotiate an entirely new JCBA in a couple years. Do we really think that voting this down now is going to net us more money between now and the JCBA? At a company and with a union that you guys all crap on constantly? And with a recession looming?

Bluedriver 12-15-2022 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by seekingblue (Post 3552866)
I’m voting yes.

the snap up is what sealed the deal for me.


IMHO- profit sharing isn’t worth it. I’d rather have the snap up. The likelihood of us actually turning a profit before getting a JBCA is nil.

That said, profit sharing in the JBCA is important.

My concern, is if you aren't willing to stand for profit sharing now, you will fold during JCBA.

Hope I'm wrong, prove me wrong.

HastyPack 12-15-2022 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by Ejet17589 (Post 3552882)
I am at a rate of 164$ per hour Capt at my current company. I know you guys don’t wanna mention the numbers but how is it looking year 1 FO?

$100/hour. Come on over for a 39% haircut!

SaintNick 12-15-2022 06:08 PM

I’ve never voted yes to anything here. I might on this one.

Bluedriver 12-15-2022 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by IAFDOF (Post 3552894)
If someone can answer without being unpleasant, I’m genuinely curious…

Say we vote this down. Then what? We keep our current rates for how long… another month before a new TA is offered? A year? 4 years, like precious Delta? How do you see these negotiations going that it’s worth voting down these rates with a snap-up?

We negotiate an entirely new JCBA in a couple years. Do we really think that voting this down now is going to net us more money between now and the JCBA? At a company and with a union that you guys all crap on constantly?

Relax, it'll pass easily. Ship has sailed.

Please don't fold on PS during JCBA. You may not see it now, but if you do you will regret it for years.

IAFDOF 12-15-2022 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3552900)
Please don't fold on PS during JCBA. You may not see it now, but if you do you will regret it for years.

I promise you I won’t. A 20% raise now makes a huge difference at this point in my life/career, plain and simple. Forgoing that would hurt. I agree with you that PS is important in the long term, but this TA isn’t supposed to be long term. The JCBA is. The JCBA absolutely needs PS.

CareerPivot 12-15-2022 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by HastyPack (Post 3552898)
$100/hour. Come on over for a 39% haircut!

More importantly... what does year 2 look like? Also a 6% raise?


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