A321 xlr
12-30-2022 | 05:44 PM
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EASA recently agreed with the FAA that changes are needed to the Rear Center (fuel) Tank in order to reduce fire risks, so sounds like even more delays.
https://airwaysmag.com/easa-faa-on-a...body-redesign/
https://airwaysmag.com/easa-faa-on-a...body-redesign/
12-30-2022 | 09:37 PM
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Super looking forward to flying 223K# around on an A320 wing. Looking at green dot around 260kts below 10K' and recommended max alt around FL320? At MZFW + 5K# fuel still can't get above FL350 (that's at the end of the flight...). Big AB fan, honestly think this is as bad as the 10 MAX as far as stretching capabilities goes (no, not including MCAS). Should have made a A322. Air India A320 landing gear. More wing. Same cabin, Max Alt FL410. But that costs more money. Cheaper to just pour fuel into the fuselage to go further (https://airwaysmag.com/easa-faa-on-a...body-redesign/). Always short term profit over anything else.
12-31-2022 | 07:09 AM
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Super looking forward to flying 223K# around on an A320 wing. Looking at green dot around 260kts below 10K' and recommended max alt around FL320? At MZFW + 5K# fuel still can't get above FL350 (that's at the end of the flight...). Big AB fan, honestly think this is as bad as the 10 MAX as far as stretching capabilities goes (no, not including MCAS). Should have made a A322. Air India A320 landing gear. More wing. Same cabin, Max Alt FL410. But that costs more money. Cheaper to just pour fuel into the fuselage to go further (https://airwaysmag.com/easa-faa-on-a...body-redesign/). Always short term profit over anything else.
Don't bid it. I'll do the 22 hours in Rome, Munich, Vienna, etc for you.
12-31-2022 | 07:21 AM
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This is fairly reductive. The wing is in fact different. There's a new high lift system with the switch from a double-slotted to single-slotted inboard flap (which I hope they do frankly on all the 32X going forward). There are intermediate flap positions controlled by the FMS, which help with the second stage climb. They made fluid and computational dynamics enhancements to the strengthen the fuselage and the new CWB.
Don't bid it. I'll do the 22 hours in Rome, Munich, Vienna, etc for you.
Don't bid it. I'll do the 22 hours in Rome, Munich, Vienna, etc for you.
Remember when I talked about green dot speed? That is when the wing is clean. That wing is the same. I would love to fly international, but that has nothing to do with the XLR not being overstretched.
12-31-2022 | 07:53 AM
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This commonly happens on the 321. Fully loaded yesterday takeoff weight was a little over 200,000lbs. Cleaned up after departing cruising at 250kts below 10K we were 3knots above green dot. These airbuses are pigs. I can’t imagine the 321XLR.
12-31-2022 | 10:01 AM
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Not sure if "Airbuses" are pigs any more than "a fully loaded airliner is a pig".
Do a TOGA takeoff on a NEO with a lightly loaded airplane and it climbs like a scalded ape
12-31-2022 | 12:36 PM
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which means absolutely nothing. Green Dot is not some evil no-mans land. If you hit EXPED climb button, it climbs at, drum roll, green dot.
Not sure if "Airbuses" are pigs any more than "a fully loaded airliner is a pig".
Do a TOGA takeoff on a NEO with a lightly loaded airplane and it climbs like a scalded ape
Not sure if "Airbuses" are pigs any more than "a fully loaded airliner is a pig".
Do a TOGA takeoff on a NEO with a lightly loaded airplane and it climbs like a scalded ape
12-31-2022 | 01:00 PM
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Everything is a matter of perspective. I’ve got buddies who believe if what you are flying doesn’t have more thrust than weight it’s a pig. Or that anything with more than a high speed centerline tank is a pig.
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