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Old 03-08-2023 | 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Norge
Sadly B6ALPA simply reflects our pilot group. Fold, fear, wet noodle, jellyfish...those words can describe our group as well. We certainly need stronger leadership (no question) but it's our peers who have yet to reject a company offer.
Wrong, we’ve rejected an offer. B6ALPA thought we were crazy for doing so.
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Old 03-08-2023 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by bidnez
Hope it goes through, I don't think JB will survive without the merger... Just the cost to fight this for years is going to be decimating.
Slim chance the DOJ succeeds. Almost zero chance. Follow the money.
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Old 03-08-2023 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluediver
Wrong, we’ve rejected an offer. B6ALPA thought we were crazy for doing so.
Then JB did it anyways and we caved in the very next vote. JB pilots don't have the intestinal fortitude to hold themselves up to their true value. And JB management knows it. They can hold their hard line. Our NC does what they believe is their best, then the MEC passes the buck to the pilot group and we vote in whatever they send us. Every time. Is what it is.
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Old 03-08-2023 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluediver
Wrong, we’ve rejected an offer. B6ALPA thought we were crazy for doing so.
What did we reject and when?
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Old 03-08-2023 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Norge
What did we reject and when?
Turned down the NEA deal the first time around.
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Old 03-08-2023 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16
Turned down the NEA deal the first time around.
LOA 13… 2% raise and furlough protection.
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Old 03-08-2023 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by flyingpuma1
If you think it’s bad over at JB you should see us here at NK, can’t keep new hires (or old hires) and haven’t made a profit since before Covid, at least you have figured out how to make money our management can’t/doesn’t care.
This is another case to be made for this merger. Both these companies as separate entities are struggling to grow and compete. That’s just the reality of the industry right now. Without this acquisition, JB will still be around, but it won’t be pretty. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. They’ve hitched their entire growth strategy to this wagon. We’d probably end up shrinking, and the whole thing will end up costing us a fortune.
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Old 03-08-2023 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Roy Biggins
This is another case to be made for this merger. Both these companies as separate entities are struggling to grow and compete. That’s just the reality of the industry right now. Without this acquisition, JB will still be around, but it won’t be pretty. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. They’ve hitched their entire growth strategy to this wagon. We’d probably end up shrinking, and the whole thing will end up costing us a fortune.
Spirit merger committee chairman screenshotting this post right now.
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Old 03-08-2023 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Spirit merger committee chairman screenshotting this post right now.
Meh, something else I have zero control over. My only choice is to try and ride this thing out or jump ship asap.
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Old 03-08-2023 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Norge
What did we reject and when?
We rejected 2%, but settled for 3% 😂
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