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Boomer 02-13-2023 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by Softpayman (Post 3591380)
We can't get enough planes as is....You think we have A350's waiting in the wings for Tel Aviv and Tokyo service? Which routes is AA flying that we should be?

Go to JetBlue dot com and search for flights from JFK to LHR
Five daily flights are available. One is JetBlue, the other 4 are American.
So there’s four we should be flying for starters.

JayRalstonSmith 02-13-2023 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 3591160)
We give AA our planned international and wide body growth. Then we fly AA passengers into JFK to get on those big planes. It doesn’t have to be either/or.

Newsflash...we kept all of our planned international growth and gave none of it to AA. And this may shock you, but there was never any planned WB growth.

N6279P 02-13-2023 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 3591391)
Go to JetBlue dot com and search for flights from JFK to LHR
Five daily flights are available. One is JetBlue, the other 4 are American.
So there’s four we should be flying for starters.

Also United.com will sell you a flight on Lufthansa. That doesn’t mean United will be flying from FRA to HAM ever.

I was inverted 02-13-2023 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by N6279P (Post 3591416)
Also United.com will sell you a flight on Lufthansa. That doesn’t mean United will be flying from FRA to HAM ever.

That’s a codeshare. The JFK-LHR with AA/B6 is a joint venture with revenue sharing. Except it’s a unique one, whereby jetblue can sell tickets on AA on that route, but AA can’t sell tickets on jetblue metal on that route. That was part of the design to help get the NEA approved to give the appearance that they are still competing on that route. A little different than UAL selling a ticket from FRA-HAM on Lufthansa.

N6279P 02-13-2023 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by I was inverted (Post 3591423)
That’s a codeshare. The JFK-LHR with AA/B6 is a joint venture with revenue sharing. Except it’s a unique one, whereby jetblue can sell tickets on AA on that route, but AA can’t sell tickets on jetblue metal on that route. That was part of the design to help get the NEA approved to give the appearance that they are still competing on that route. A little different than UAL selling a ticket from FRA-HAM on Lufthansa.

UA/LH is also a JV.

Forward lav 02-13-2023 11:41 AM

Let’s do Delta Virgin Atlantic now.

todd1200 02-13-2023 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by Forward lav (Post 3591428)
Let’s do Delta Virgin Atlantic now.

Or Delta and Republic. Not sure why guys get so wound up about scope?

todd1200 02-13-2023 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by JayRalstonSmith (Post 3591401)
Newsflash...we kept all of our planned international growth and gave none of it to AA. And this may shock you, but there was never any planned WB growth.

Just checked the alternate universe where we didn't pursue the NEA and you're right. Looking down the line, JB's ability to collect risk free revenue did not affect their decision to make a huge outlay of Capex and pursue potential expansion into widebodies.

Bluedriver 02-14-2023 04:29 AM


Originally Posted by todd1200 (Post 3591714)
Or Delta and Republic. Not sure why guys get so wound up about scope?

Love the sarcasm. You're on a roll. 😂

JayRalstonSmith 02-14-2023 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by todd1200 (Post 3591716)
Just checked the alternate universe where we didn't pursue the NEA and you're right. Looking down the line, JB's ability to collect risk free revenue did not affect their decision to make a huge outlay of Capex and pursue potential expansion into widebodies.

Years from now? I’m sorry, did we have a pending WB RFP that we halted to pursue the NEA?

Did the NEA also halt our plans to buy Boom supersonic jets? Or open a focus city on Mars? 😂


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