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Bluediver 03-06-2023 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 3602996)
The argument for/against the merger is still the same, just more opponents on the other side. The only change I expect is another 4-6 months added onto the timeframe to get this completed and probably run it through the Supreme Court.

The argument against two small carriers merging to become the 5th largest carrier isn't going to hold water in the long term. If this is truly the case then the government needs to unravel DL/NW, CO/UA, AA/US, WN/AT, VX/AS.

Why stop there? Give back TWA, AMwest, Republic (1), Midwest and while you’re at it let’s bring back Morris Air for good measure.

Flyby1206 03-06-2023 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by Bluediver (Post 3603018)
Why stop there? Give back TWA, AMwest, Republic (1), Midwest and while you’re at it let’s bring back Morris Air for good measure.

F-it, bring back the Civil Aeronautics Board! 😂

Bluedriver 03-06-2023 03:03 PM

For all the political connections JB has, I believe there are 4 huge airlines with connections and political contributions placing their thumb on the scale against approval.

ProPilotBlue 03-06-2023 03:10 PM

The company can operate as 2 operating certificates. There is precedent for that (Republic, Atlas, etc.). It won't be as efficient, but they don't have to wait for a supreme court decision to actually merge. And in the meantime they could merge most of the operation, and maybe even transfer some assets to the JetBlue certificate. Annoying? Yes, but IMHO I don't think that's a deal-breaker. They WILL get the approval, eventually. Maybe it happens in late January of 2025...

Bluedriver 03-06-2023 03:14 PM

Interesting idea. Maybe they win in court, but if the DOT won't back down they close on the sale and slowly move assets to the JB certificate?

ProPilotBlue 03-06-2023 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3603089)
Interesting idea. Maybe they win in court, but if the DOT won't back down they close on the sale and slowly move assets to the JB certificate?

Maybe? At the very least they could run them as 2 operations until such time that the DOT gets their heads extracted. 2 operations that work together for max efficiency.

RiddleEagle18 03-06-2023 03:53 PM

Our contract does not allow for that

Tranquility 03-06-2023 03:59 PM

It would be interesting to see this play out with our respective scope clauses regarding merger transactions…. We at NK have certain protections in cases of a merger, but I’d need a Rep to digest the legalese for me; lots of lawyer talk….

ProPilotBlue 03-06-2023 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18 (Post 3603110)
Our contract does not allow for that

Oh, darn. I guess it will just have to be scrapped then. Pack it up fellas, the CBA won't let it happen!


I'm pretty sure that if necessary, a temporary modification could be made with some stipulations. It is in all of our best interests that this thing go through.

baseball3792 03-06-2023 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18 (Post 3603110)
Our contract does not allow for that

I’m sure that it could be arranged… for a price


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