Sure, your relative seniority improves on the day of SLI, but what about 10 or 20 years down the road?

JB will start to have a decent number of retirements soon and having younger Spirit pilots slotted in ahead of us means many of us will retire with much less relative seniority because of the SLI.

I’m not commenting on the overall benefit of the merger, just the mathematical reality that seems to get overlooked in these discussions when we have tunnel vision on relative seniority movement on the date of SLI without considering future ramifications.

 

Um. Yeah.

That's why Delduh is the number 3 carrier there and I don't know when the last time you priced a ticket on SW but it ain't much if any cheaper than Delduh.

Let's see, we have a facility with unused gates and four runways prime for growth oooooor we got a cramped facility, where we will most likely have to give away gates and only two runways prime for meltdowns... which one do we try and grow...

 

Um, no.

I saw The list you speak of. I'm pretty typical here, middleish seniority, and I went up a very small amount. It was almost not worth discussing, when this place was growing organically I used to see movement like what this merger brings every few months. After this final tiny bump, we will be stuck wherever we are more or less for decades as there will be essentially zero organic growth for years, and potential for shrinkage as "efficincies" are found and our recruitment/retention problems come to a head (giggity).

This merger is TERRIBLE for most B6 pilots. Even the most senior guys, who don't need to worry about stagnation, and who benefit from new lower COL bases still get hit with lower earnings thanks to the addition of lower self worth pilots to the voting pool.

 

The most fair integration is Date of hire.

 

You would think so, but apparently we each have to pay $30 a month to come up with some other convoluted (and I'm sure, ****tier) way to be integrated.

 

 

Will (should) our higher paying contract and the fact that JetBlue is purchasing Spirit, and not the other way around, play a role in seniority integration?

 

Yes it should.

 

Yes. The only thing they are really negotiating is Boston or Swingline.

 

You may see a small bump in RS if the semi-expected formula is used. What you aren't thinking about is how even with a small bump in RS, hundreds of NK pilots hired after you, some years after you, will go ahead of you. While that sounds like a "fairness" gripe, it's a practical gripe with significant consequences. Those guys hired after you are statistically younger than you, and will be in front of you until your retirement day (speaking as if you were a statistically average age at hire, and to illustrate to others situation).

So think of your current RS now, but also you can very easily calculate your future RS all the way to retirement currently. After this merger however, your current RS may go up slightly, but your future RS will be destroyed year after year, until retirement.

This simply MUST be included in the formulation of the new list. It would be a massive windfall for NK guys and a massive EPH YOU to the JB guys if it isn't.