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Old 08-28-2023, 03:37 PM
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As far as hiring goes, is Jetblue hiring newly minted 1500 hour pilots or is that just a pipe dream? I realize there is possible merger in the works, but sell me on Jetblue over Spirit. Is Jetblue the better place to be, or are the two airlines quite similar?
If the merger is approved, I imagine the two companies will likely become uniform in policy and procedures and it makes me wonder if the merger screws up QOL for many that there will be massive attrition. Speculation at this point, but it makes me wonder if possible changes coming will not be good for both pilot groups.
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As far as hiring goes, is Jetblue hiring newly minted 1500 hour pilots or is that just a pipe dream? I realize there is possible merger in the works, but sell me on Jetblue over Spirit. Is Jetblue the better place to be, or are the two airlines quite similar?
If the merger is approved, I imagine the two companies will likely become uniform in policy and procedures and it makes me wonder if the merger screws up QOL for many that there will be massive attrition. Speculation at this point, but it makes me wonder if possible changes coming will not be good for both pilot groups.
Lmao, oh man…

Just go where you can get the first class date
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Old 08-28-2023, 04:43 PM
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As far as hiring goes, is Jetblue hiring newly minted 1500 hour pilots or is that just a pipe dream? I realize there is possible merger in the works, but sell me on Jetblue over Spirit. Is Jetblue the better place to be, or are the two airlines quite similar?
If the merger is approved, I imagine the two companies will likely become uniform in policy and procedures and it makes me wonder if the merger screws up QOL for many that there will be massive attrition. Speculation at this point, but it makes me wonder if possible changes coming will not be good for both pilot groups.
I will sell you on going somewhere else since you seen like someone I do not want to fly with.
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Old 08-28-2023, 05:42 PM
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I will sell you on going somewhere else since you seen like someone I do not want to fly with.
I think we need to cut the new guys some slack. They just don't know what they don't know. He is just trying to figure things out.
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Originally Posted by Pilatus801 View Post
As far as hiring goes, is Jetblue hiring newly minted 1500 hour pilots or is that just a pipe dream? I realize there is possible merger in the works, but sell me on Jetblue over Spirit. Is Jetblue the better place to be, or are the two airlines quite similar?
If the merger is approved, I imagine the two companies will likely become uniform in policy and procedures and it makes me wonder if the merger screws up QOL for many that there will be massive attrition. Speculation at this point, but it makes me wonder if possible changes coming will not be good for both pilot groups.
JetBlue is hiring down to the regulatory mins. As far as choices go, I don't think that one is necessarily better than the other. I'm happy at JetBlue. Plenty of people are happy at Spirit. If you're the type who is miserable, you'll be miserable no matter where you go. I think that you should apply to every airline that you would be happy to work for and take the first class date that you're offered. Then stay there unless there's a really good reason to leave. I have buddies who have airline hopped, and every one of them would have been better off if they had just stayed at the first major airline they got hired at. One started at AirTran in the late 1990s, then USAir, and now he's at SouthWest, junior to where he would have been if he had just stayed at AirTran all along. You won't know until you retire if you made the right choices, so just make the best decisions that you can, and hope for the best.

Good luck out there.
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Originally Posted by Pilatus801 View Post
As far as hiring goes, is Jetblue hiring newly minted 1500 hour pilots or is that just a pipe dream? I realize there is possible merger in the works, but sell me on Jetblue over Spirit. Is Jetblue the better place to be, or are the two airlines quite similar?
If the merger is approved, I imagine the two companies will likely become uniform in policy and procedures and it makes me wonder if the merger screws up QOL for many that there will be massive attrition. Speculation at this point, but it makes me wonder if possible changes coming will not be good for both pilot groups.
Judging by your posts both from here and the Spirit sub, you seem very green to 121 ops and flying a jet. Nothing wrong with that (we were all there), but you're gonna need to have your hand held thru training and into the transition to line pilot. From what I understand JBs training regimen is much more thorough than what you will get at NK. I can tell you that the sub 2000 hour pilots will little to no turbine time struggle immensely because I've flown with them.

To echo everyone else, go to wherever you can get a class date.
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Judging by your posts both from here and the Spirit sub, you seem very green to 121 ops and flying a jet. Nothing wrong with that (we were all there), but you're gonna need to have your hand held thru training and into the transition to line pilot. From what I understand JBs training regimen is much more thorough than what you will get at NK. I can tell you that the sub 2000 hour pilots will little to no turbine time struggle immensely because I've flown with them.

To echo everyone else, go to wherever you can get a class date.
I do believe you have these backwards sir. B6 training is a breeze, and was designed for people who have already flown jets. There are some people going through it for the first time and they have a harder time for sure.

NK training from everything I have heard from friends is that is is MUCH more intense than our training.
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Old 08-29-2023, 05:33 AM
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Go to whichever one you can drive to. If you can drive to both, go to the one that gives you a class date first because that will matter when the SLI comes along.

I'll echo what tpgcirrus said, B6 training is tailored to folks that are experienced with jets and 121 ops.
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NK training from everything I have heard from friends is that is is MUCH more intense than our training.
One is AQP and the other is....not 👀
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One is AQP and the other is....not 👀
Don't understand why everyone makes a huge deal out of this. You have only one checkride to do in a non-AQP environment where in AQP you can fail both LOE and MV. NKs checkride is essentially an MV with stalls and steep turns. That's it. NKs training is great once you start week 4 (CSIs). Indoc and CPT are trash and you rely on your previous 121 training.
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