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Old 01-18-2024 | 12:32 PM
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Even if this acquisition is not going down as planned - can we purchase the future NK delevieries ? Is there any talk of doing that , so we can grow organically ?
I am new here, question for guys that were here pre-covid - what was the company's plan to grow back then ?
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Old 01-18-2024 | 12:36 PM
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Even if this acquisition is not going down as planned - can we purchase the future NK delevieries ? Is there any talk of doing that , so we can grow organically ?
I am new here, question for guys that were here pre-covid - what was the company's plan to grow back then ?
One plane, two pilots, one route. STI be that route.
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Old 01-18-2024 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Refing
Even if this acquisition is not going down as planned - can we purchase the future NK delevieries ? Is there any talk of doing that , so we can grow organically ?
I am new here, question for guys that were here pre-covid - what was the company's plan to grow back then ?
Im not 100% sure airlines can buy/sell aircraft delivery slots from each other, but I am sure if NK was serious about heading towards BK then Airbus would be more than happy to swap out those delivery slots with someone else. I believe Airbus would be in control of that though

This article just came out:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/spirit-airlines-drops-further-jetblue-131724161.html

​​​​​​​The company said it is changing its aircraft delivery schedule through the end of the decade and slowing capacity growth in the near term.
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Originally Posted by Bluediver
One plane, two pilots, one route. STI be that route.
Now that the 321LR has proven its range it is time to use it as intended. STI-SDQ hourly shuttle flights. Operating 2200-0500 only.
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Originally Posted by Refing
I am new here, question for guys that were here pre-covid - what was the company's plan to grow back then ?
Buy Virgin America. That didn't work out either...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-takeover-bids
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Old 01-18-2024 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Refing
I am new here, question for guys that were here pre-covid - what was the company's plan to grow back then ?
Dump the 190 fleet. Upgauge with the 220.
TATL with the LR.
BOS 200.
Turn FLL into a connecting hub between the USA and the Caribbean and Latin America.
​​​​​LAX and MCO growth at lower levels, but at some point in time once higher priorities were accomplished.

That's all I remember from the olden days.
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Robin said they would be seriously considering 330s if the merger didnt happen. He laid out a very viable strategy involving swapping them amongst different routes in the summer vs the winter.

Of course they have been dangling widebody vaporware since 2005 so take it with a huge grain of salt.
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Old 01-18-2024 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MainlineFlyer
Robin said they would be seriously considering 330s if the merger didnt happen. He laid out a very viable strategy involving swapping them amongst different routes in the summer vs the winter.

Of course they have been dangling widebody vaporware since 2005 so take it with a huge grain of salt.
Robin is gone friend. With him his plans go with him.
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Old 01-18-2024 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by The701Express
Dump the 190 fleet. Upgauge with the 220.
TATL with the LR.
BOS 200.
Turn FLL into a connecting hub between the Northeast USA and the Caribbean and Latin America.
​​​​​LAX and MCO growth at lower levels, but at some point in time once higher priorities were accomplished.

That's all I remember from the olden days.
I fixed that for you.
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Old 01-18-2024 | 03:33 PM
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Robin is gone friend. With him, his plans go.
Well supposedly he's staying on as an advisor, and I would imagine those plans still make sense, but yeah, not getting my hopes up. Junior pilot attrition is gonna be eye-watering unless they do something though.

Everything Joanna has touched in this company has turned to *******, and now she has the whole thing. I've been here a while and even I'm looking at my resume.
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