Can we buy Spirit's Airbus delivery slots ?
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From: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
#102
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From: Airbus Capt
You mean the government didn't do proper oversight (I agree) and the private company without proper supervision killed 300 people and would have killed more if the government didn't step in and shut it down? Boeing was still maintaining that the problem was the third world airline operators, even though those airlines were on the record with Boeing being concerned about the MCAS (Mass-Casualty) system.
I ask again, have you seen the Netflix documentary "Downfall: The Case Against Boeing"?
I ask again, have you seen the Netflix documentary "Downfall: The Case Against Boeing"?
#103
You mean the government didn't do proper oversight (I agree) and the private company without proper supervision killed 300 people and would have killed more if the government didn't step in and shut it down? Boeing was still maintaining that the problem was the third world airline operators, even though those airlines were on the record with Boeing being concerned about the MCAS (Mass-Casualty) system.
I ask again, have you seen the Netflix documentary "Downfall: The Case Against Boeing"?
I ask again, have you seen the Netflix documentary "Downfall: The Case Against Boeing"?
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You mean the government didn't do proper oversight (I agree) and the private company without proper supervision killed 300 people and would have killed more if the government didn't step in and shut it down? Boeing was still maintaining that the problem was the third world airline operators, even though those airlines were on the record with Boeing being concerned about the MCAS (Mass-Casualty) system.
I ask again, have you seen the Netflix documentary "Downfall: The Case Against Boeing"?
I ask again, have you seen the Netflix documentary "Downfall: The Case Against Boeing"?
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Both those crashes were pilot error . They mishandled a problem. Yes, was very chaotic but anybody who has any experience in that plane would shut off that massive spinning annoying wheel in 2 seconds. Yes,mcas should 100% of been disclosed and discussed but it was no different then trim runaway.
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Both those crashes were pilot error . They mishandled a problem. Yes, was very chaotic but anybody who has any experience in that plane would shut off that massive spinning annoying wheel in 2 seconds. Yes,mcas should 100% of been disclosed and discussed but it was no different then trim runaway.
#107
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From: Airbus Capt
Both those crashes were pilot error . They mishandled a problem. Yes, was very chaotic but anybody who has any experience in that plane would shut off that massive spinning annoying wheel in 2 seconds. Yes,mcas should 100% of been disclosed and discussed but it was no different then trim runaway.
Or, you weren't intelligent enough to comprehend the internal Boeing emails that show you are dead wrong...
Either way, yikes.
#108
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From: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
You mean the government didn't do proper oversight (I agree) and the private company without proper supervision killed 300 people and would have killed more if the government didn't step in and shut it down? Boeing was still maintaining that the problem was the third world airline operators, even though those airlines were on the record with Boeing being concerned about the MCAS (Mass-Casualty) system.
I ask again, have you seen the Netflix documentary "Downfall: The Case Against Boeing"?
I ask again, have you seen the Netflix documentary "Downfall: The Case Against Boeing"?
yes that’s why I said you need a balance. This isn’t some major argument relax.
since I know you…..balance like Boeing is allowed to be a private/public company but also has proper oversight from the government.
Seems in the max case as well as others Boeing failed and the FAA failed
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#109
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From: Airbus Capt
yes that’s why I said you need a balance. This isn’t some major argument relax.
since I know you…..balance like Boeing is allowed to be a private/public company but also has proper oversight from the government.
Seems in the max case as well as others Boeing failed and the FAA failed
since I know you…..balance like Boeing is allowed to be a private/public company but also has proper oversight from the government.
Seems in the max case as well as others Boeing failed and the FAA failed

All good.
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The captain 31 times trimming and and stopping mcas before not saying a word about doing that and hands controls to fo and goes heads down. Or the second one flying a takeoff power for 5 minutes before hitting the ground. Are you a student pilot posting??


