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02-09-2024, 12:52 PM
#101
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Yep, that isn't proper oversight, and look what happened.
Have you watched the Netflix documentary "Downfall: The Case Against Boeing"?
Have you watched the Netflix documentary "Downfall: The Case Against Boeing"?
02-10-2024, 07:06 AM
#102
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
yeah point being the GOVERNMENT allowed for it.
I ask again, have you seen the Netflix documentary "Downfall: The Case Against Boeing"?
02-10-2024, 12:49 PM
#103
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
You mean the government didn't do proper oversight (I agree) and the private company without proper supervision killed 300 people and would have killed more if the government didn't step in and shut it down? Boeing was still maintaining that the problem was the third world airline operators, even though those airlines were on the record with Boeing being concerned about the MCAS (Mass-Casualty) system.
I ask again, have you seen the Netflix documentary "Downfall: The Case Against Boeing"?
I ask again, have you seen the Netflix documentary "Downfall: The Case Against Boeing"?
02-12-2024, 11:40 AM
#104
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
You mean the government didn't do proper oversight (I agree) and the private company without proper supervision killed 300 people and would have killed more if the government didn't step in and shut it down? Boeing was still maintaining that the problem was the third world airline operators, even though those airlines were on the record with Boeing being concerned about the MCAS (Mass-Casualty) system.
I ask again, have you seen the Netflix documentary "Downfall: The Case Against Boeing"?
I ask again, have you seen the Netflix documentary "Downfall: The Case Against Boeing"?
02-12-2024, 12:19 PM
#105
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Originally Posted by GPullR
Both those crashes were pilot error . They mishandled a problem. Yes, was very chaotic but anybody who has any experience in that plane would shut off that massive spinning annoying wheel in 2 seconds. Yes,mcas should 100% of been disclosed and discussed but it was no different then trim runaway.
02-12-2024, 12:36 PM
#106
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Originally Posted by GPullR
Both those crashes were pilot error . They mishandled a problem. Yes, was very chaotic but anybody who has any experience in that plane would shut off that massive spinning annoying wheel in 2 seconds. Yes,mcas should 100% of been disclosed and discussed but it was no different then trim runaway.
02-12-2024, 02:20 PM
#107
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Originally Posted by GPullR
Both those crashes were pilot error . They mishandled a problem. Yes, was very chaotic but anybody who has any experience in that plane would shut off that massive spinning annoying wheel in 2 seconds. Yes,mcas should 100% of been disclosed and discussed but it was no different then trim runaway.
Or, you weren't intelligent enough to comprehend the internal Boeing emails that show you are dead wrong...
Either way, yikes.
02-12-2024, 03:11 PM
#108
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
You mean the government didn't do proper oversight (I agree) and the private company without proper supervision killed 300 people and would have killed more if the government didn't step in and shut it down? Boeing was still maintaining that the problem was the third world airline operators, even though those airlines were on the record with Boeing being concerned about the MCAS (Mass-Casualty) system.
I ask again, have you seen the Netflix documentary "Downfall: The Case Against Boeing"?
I ask again, have you seen the Netflix documentary "Downfall: The Case Against Boeing"?
yes that’s why I said you need a balance. This isn’t some major argument relax.
since I know you…..balance like Boeing is allowed to be a private/public company but also has proper oversight from the government.
Seems in the max case as well as others Boeing failed and the FAA failed
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02-12-2024, 04:28 PM
#109
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
yes that’s why I said you need a balance. This isn’t some major argument relax.
since I know you…..balance like Boeing is allowed to be a private/public company but also has proper oversight from the government.
Seems in the max case as well as others Boeing failed and the FAA failed
since I know you…..balance like Boeing is allowed to be a private/public company but also has proper oversight from the government.
Seems in the max case as well as others Boeing failed and the FAA failed
All good.
02-13-2024, 08:57 AM
#110
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Tell us you haven't seen the Netflix documentary "Downfall: The Case Against Boeing" without telling us you haven't seen it....
Or, you weren't intelligent enough to comprehend the internal Boeing emails that show you are dead wrong...
Either way, yikes.
Or, you weren't intelligent enough to comprehend the internal Boeing emails that show you are dead wrong...
Either way, yikes.
The captain 31 times trimming and and stopping mcas before not saying a word about doing that and hands controls to fo and goes heads down. Or the second one flying a takeoff power for 5 minutes before hitting the ground. Are you a student pilot posting??
