View Poll Results: Are you leaving JetBlue for another airline?
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Staying or Going... JetBlue edition
#201
On Reserve
Joined APC: Feb 2024
Posts: 19
while I do understand where you're coming from, it's still way out of the left field and absolutely falls under the category of wild speculation. one thing i do know is that whatever the coming years are to bring, it'll be interesting to watch it transpire. although, i think id rather do it from a far (i.e. DAL, AA, UAL)
#202
Some Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2019
Posts: 318
#203
off weekends (if Reserve)
Joined APC: May 2023
Posts: 290
I'm coming up on 3 years and wanted to retire here after getting hired. This place works well for my family. I'm 50/50 now, finding it hard to make a decision with so many unknowns and viariables (Insert larry david meme). I definitely want to see what is said during the investor presentation in May and hope for some more clarity. Still, even if they paint a pretty future for us its no guarantee of whats to come.
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I ve noticed now collective forum guidance on "Certainly Staying" has gone up from over 2 years to now include 3 to 4.
I will point out that one constant I read on bith staying and going posts is: UNCERTAINTY. With Mr.Icahn's involvement announced earlier this week......that to me only increases the volumne of uncertaity.
In addition to, I challenge anyone to find a one time employee (need not be Aviaition) of any Company that Icahn has been associated with and says " Wow, I am so glad I stayed with _____ after Icahn. My career took such a great turn with_____ after Icahn came aboard."
Yes there is uncertanty. I thought Geraghty represents a lot of uncertainty. There is a chance Geraghty may turn the company around and grow like Kudzu and widebodies on-the-ready. But it is a slim chance and I think threr is a higher probababilty she leads to a bad outcome. Certainly now introduce Icahn.....I think those odds of a bad outcome go up exponentially.
So jetpilot I sympathyze with you as succes in all areas of life come down to: The Decisions you make when you are under the most pressure.
Not everyone gets them right.........thats why you get/will get/will not get paid the Big Bucks!!!
But I encourage you to do this: Picture yourself age 66.....you are somewhere nice...healthy...enjoying your life.......are you saying "All this was possible because I had faith in that Icahn guy...I just knew it!!"
#204
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2019
Posts: 321
Kind of in the same boat. I've got seniority and drive to work. Came with full intention of staying here. This has me feeling very uneasy, to the point where for the first time I've been here, I've considered putting apps out. I'm glad hes capped at 15% but based on his past I don't really see that stopping him as I see it more of a roadblock. I think in the end whatever his intentions may be he will get, 15% cap or not, what he wants.
Same boat. What worries me is not only his involvement but how Mgmt has handled this. Stringing us along, the vetting process must’ve been short. Both have served at Xerox, which had a scandal and at an energy company facing corruption charges. Part of me says there’s nothing for him to sell to pay off debt as we aren’t in much debt but I’m sure he’ll find a way. His reputation is what makes me uneasy coupled with no plan B said yet. At this point I’m hoping for us to be sold to a bigger carrier where I’ll still be at the bottom but keep longevity. If the investor call in May is still shaky, I’ll call it quits and put apps out.
#205
On Reserve
Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 12
I ve noticed now collective forum guidance on "Certainly Staying" has gone up from over 2 years to now include 3 to 4.
I will point out that one constant I read on bith staying and going posts is: UNCERTAINTY. With Mr.Icahn's involvement announced earlier this week......that to me only increases the volumne of uncertaity.
In addition to, I challenge anyone to find a one time employee (need not be Aviaition) of any Company that Icahn has been associated with and says " Wow, I am so glad I stayed with _____ after Icahn. My career took such a great turn with_____ after Icahn came aboard."
Yes there is uncertanty. I thought Geraghty represents a lot of uncertainty. There is a chance Geraghty may turn the company around and grow like Kudzu and widebodies on-the-ready. But it is a slim chance and I think threr is a higher probababilty she leads to a bad outcome. Certainly now introduce Icahn.....I think those odds of a bad outcome go up exponentially.
So jetpilot I sympathyze with you as succes in all areas of life come down to: The Decisions you make when you are under the most pressure.
Not everyone gets them right.........thats why you get/will get/will not get paid the Big Bucks!!!
But I encourage you to do this: Picture yourself age 66.....you are somewhere nice...healthy...enjoying your life.......are you saying "All this was possible because I had faith in that Icahn guy...I just knew it!!"
#206
Some Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2019
Posts: 318
Same boat. What worries me is not only his involvement but how Mgmt has handled this. Stringing us along, the vetting process must’ve been short. Both have served at Xerox, which had a scandal and at an energy company facing corruption charges. Part of me says there’s nothing for him to sell to pay off debt as we aren’t in much debt but I’m sure he’ll find a way. His reputation is what makes me uneasy coupled with no plan B said yet. At this point I’m hoping for us to be sold to a bigger carrier where I’ll still be at the bottom but keep longevity. If the investor call in May is still shaky, I’ll call it quits and put apps out.
The plan B one is another hot topic for me. Have heard constantly since Spirit was even a thought that a plan B was in place in case of an unsuccessful outcome. Fast forward to present time and still no mention of this plan B. Just a "we have one". More stringing along with they'll say more of what it is in May. Now throw the newest investor into the mix it seems more of there is no plan B. I'm doing the same thing. Let the dust settle and see what happens come May with the investor call and then it'll be decision time.
#207
Line Holder
Joined APC: Feb 2018
Posts: 70
This is not the kind of language expected to come down from the bench during an anti-trust, or any trial.
The judge is an idiot, and the defense failed to recognize that or educate him.
Personally I'm optimistic about the appeal, but I think some renegotiations are called for.
The landscape has changed and $3.8B is too much. If the appeal favors the defense, the surviving airline needs it's best shot at survival and growth considering the challenges ahead including P&W.
#208
Same boat. What worries me is not only his involvement but how Mgmt has handled this. Stringing us along, the vetting process must’ve been short. Both have served at Xerox, which had a scandal and at an energy company facing corruption charges. Part of me says there’s nothing for him to sell to pay off debt as we aren’t in much debt but I’m sure he’ll find a way. His reputation is what makes me uneasy coupled with no plan B said yet. At this point I’m hoping for us to be sold to a bigger carrier where I’ll still be at the bottom but keep longevity. If the investor call in May is still shaky, I’ll call it quits and put apps out.
It’s seems like the DOJ can block any future merger easily if they so choose
#209
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,002
It’s never brought to court like several mergers of our pastime. Our last President, who’s the running favorite to be our next President, is the one who rubber stamped the NEA during the final months of his presidency.
#210
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2016
Posts: 71
Clearly past precedent wasn’t used in this. Going forward, I wouldn’t think his ignorant decision would be used as any basis for future M&A.
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