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Wasntme 05-29-2024 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by Combatcraig (Post 3806611)
yeah great option. Another night in the Crashpad and more money blown on taxis. Thanks for tip, genius. Smdh.

so I don’t want to fly your 5 day and you don’t want to fly my 3 and 2 day. That’s real genius. SMH nozzle

Bluedriver 05-29-2024 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by PSU Flyer (Post 3806548)
So, they should go away because YOU don’t like them? Very few people get “stuck” with 5-days. Some commuters like them because they can do three commutable 5-days and be done for the month. The better option is to try and tailor the amount of commutable trips and day trips to the desires of the pilot group.

This is the key. We have surveyed the bases individually, and should do it annually. Match the pairing mix to the survey results... Some bases have lots of commuters, some don't. The pairings should match that.

I commute, and my willingness to fly 5-days is directly proportional to the way the trip is built. For many years I flew 5-days regularly, and lived them. Because they had 4 legs TOTAL, had great long west coast layovers, and were highly commutable.

The ones they build right now I don't touch... Build desirable 4-5 day trips, in proportion to the amount that bases pilots WANT, and they will get snatched up.

Bgood 05-30-2024 05:15 AM


Originally Posted by Whica Flore (Post 3806702)
They decreased headcount in NYC / BOS last year. This year - we need to refocus on NYC / BOS, and we are going to fly shorter trips to help with reliability, with our reduced headcount in those bases we are refocusing on. Around and round the merry go round we go.

When did they say they need to refocus on NYC/BOS though? what was the actual statement?

Whica Flore 05-30-2024 05:36 AM


Originally Posted by Bgood (Post 3807031)
When did they say they need to refocus on NYC/BOS though? what was the actual statement?

Inferred from various sources such as town halls etc .......below From the Quarterly investor call...

Joanna Geraghty -- Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. Sure. So I think we mentioned in Marty's prepared remarks some loyalty commentary. But I think importantly, the network changes are focused around retrenching into our core strengths, which should drive improvement in relevance for our customers, who tend to be over-indexing in those areas.

So I think New York, Boston, South Florida. .............
........ So overall, I think a lot of great progress there, but we're focused on being highly relevant in our key focus cities. And over the last several years, some of that relevance came at the expense of those focus cities because we paused things for Spirit because the NEA was in place that we had to draw down from certain areas.

I'm actually excited by this retrenching because I think it will actually drive even more relevance for our customers in those locations. Marty, you have something to add.


Marty St. George -- President

Yeah. Conor, I think if you actually were to look at the schedule patterns that we've had -- most specifically in Boston for a lesser extent in Fort Lauderdale. And you look over the last five years. We've actually done a lot of compromising on the schedules to take advantage of things like the NEA.

And frankly, going from 20-something flights to 50-something flights in LaGuardia, those planes came from somewhere and a lot of that came from schedule quality. So I would actually say the exact opposite, which is -- this is actually going to supercharge schedule quality in some markets that we've actually neglected over the years because we were trying to do a lot of things at the same time. And I'm actually very excited about what this is giving us ability to do as far as reclaiming some of the strength that we've had historically.

Bgood 05-30-2024 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by Whica Flore (Post 3807041)
Inferred from various sources such as town halls etc .......below From the Quarterly investor call...

Joanna Geraghty -- Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. Sure. So I think we mentioned in Marty's prepared remarks some loyalty commentary. But I think importantly, the network changes are focused around retrenching into our core strengths, which should drive improvement in relevance for our customers, who tend to be over-indexing in those areas.

So I think New York, Boston, South Florida. .............
........ So overall, I think a lot of great progress there, but we're focused on being highly relevant in our key focus cities. And over the last several years, some of that relevance came at the expense of those focus cities because we paused things for Spirit because the NEA was in place that we had to draw down .......

Thanks for the info. So they are saying their plan here is to retrench into BOS, NYC, & FLL. They reduced NY and BOS head count and put them in FLL and MCO. But doesn't that mean the head counts are still available in that area for use?

Supermid 05-30-2024 08:36 AM

Half full planes all over the place. Is this normal for this time of year?

Tornado875 05-30-2024 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by Supermid (Post 3807104)
Half full planes all over the place. Is this normal for this time of year?

What routes are you seeing than on? I haven't been less than 90% full in weeks.

Supermid 05-30-2024 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by Tornado875 (Post 3807126)
What routes are you seeing than on? I haven't been less than 90% full in weeks.

The dual hydraulic failure plane was BOS to FLL had 67 people on board. Our "entrenched" markets. The JFK EDI route we're so excited for is wide open most days. Today has 87 open seats for example.

Bgood 05-30-2024 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by Supermid (Post 3807104)
Half full planes all over the place. Is this normal for this time of year?

Full boat outta PUJ today. Full boat outta JFK to PUJ

Alterbridge 05-30-2024 10:31 AM

Yes. A 2 flight sample, one of which is a late night flight on a Tuesday and the other being a brand new international destination certainly defines "All over the place."


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