I commuted for 6 yrs and didn’t fly 5 days. There is no reason why junior pilots should get stuck with them in the bid. If they were any good that wouldn’t happen. Stack a 2 and a 3 day together. There ya go.

yeah great option. Another night in the Crashpad and more money blown on taxis. Thanks for tip, genius. Smdh.

I would have killed for 5 day trips when I had to sit in fkn Kew Gardens 12 years ago doing nothing for 5 days.

They decreased headcount in NYC / BOS last year. This year - we need to refocus on NYC / BOS, and we are going to fly shorter trips to help with reliability, with our reduced headcount in those bases we are refocusing on. Around and round the merry go round we go.

is this a new phrase or something? i've never heard this.

I’m not sure I follow your logic completely. Being junior sucks and sometimes you get “stuck” with something. Maybe it’s short call reserve, short call conversion, redeyes, non-commutable trips, SDQ/STI trips, etc. I’d rather focus on the final 20 years at a place as opposed to the first 3 years. BTW, stacking a 2 and a 3 day together doesn’t make a commutable 5-day and requires a hotel/crashpad.

Pilots : In base layovers are B.S.

Company: Pilots don’t want in base layovers.

Company Planners: No problem, shorter trips and not paying for hotels as well? Reliability goes up. Genius. Why didn’t we think of that a couple years ago?


Pilots: Dammit more nights in a Crashpad? This is B.S.

I'm definitely the minority that likes in base layovers. Now all of my layovers are in New York a city I detest.

The funny thing is pilots (our union) essentially helped the company discover in base layovers as a cost saver 😂

I'll be honest, I don't care at all about in base layovers; it's just the rig part of the pairing that sucks.