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Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 3804963)

BOS/NYC are important cities for oneworld broadly speaking. AA has typically been the oneworld partner to offer US domestic connections there, but in recent years they have shifted away from BOS/NYC and focused on their PHL/CLT/MIA/DFW/PHX hubs. We saw this play out with Alaska on the west coast agreement:

https://news.aa.com/news/news-detail...elers-NET-ALP/

And AA attempted a similar, albeit more ambitious, agreement with the NEA and JB. We all know the NEA was shot down, but I suspect this BA codeshare is the start of a copycat agreement like AS has out west. We can't codeshare with AA or AS since our CBA prohibits it, so BA is the best option at the moment.

Jetblue joining oneworld means a massive bank of frequent fliers will now buy tickets on our metal so they can earn/burn frequent flier points. It also gives the TrueBlue loyalty program a huge bump in value, offering more options to earn/burn points on AA, BA, or any oneworld carrier.

Also following the theme of AA focusing elsewhere, we could see a new gate/slot lease deal where we pick up NYC/BOS/DCA real estate from AA and grow those regions even more.

Thank you for that explainer. Really helps.

First in saying I'm cautiously optimistic regarding "Pairing enhancements."

Perhaps despite being more costly on paper they'll have the opportunity to see savings in other aspects ie improved reliablity, less broken pairings etc.

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Originally Posted by Softpayman (Post 3806378)

I would say cautious optimism is the correct reaction.

It feels like they're about to pi$$ on our back and tell us it's raining. Commuters certainly are not going to like this.

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Originally Posted by Roy Biggins (Post 3806397)

It feels like they're about to pi$$ on our back and tell us it's raining. Commuters certainly are not going to like this.

Commuters may have issues with this, but for people that live in base I have a hard time imagining why I would want more crappy 5 day trips. I feel like most pilots prefer the shorter ones unless they commute.

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Originally Posted by Tornado875 (Post 3806402)

I'ver never worked a 5 day trip since I've been here. Commuters like them though. We'll see how this plays out; I'm not optimistic.

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Originally Posted by Roy Biggins (Post 3806428)

I'ver never worked a 5 day trip since I've been here. Commuters like them though. We'll see how this plays out; I'm not optimistic.

I have been forced onto them a few times. Super ass, though commuters do like them.

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Originally Posted by Roy Biggins (Post 3806397)

It feels like they're about to pi$$ on our back and tell us it's raining. Commuters certainly are not going to like this.

Kinda depends on where you commute from. I have a relatively easy commute compared to most so this doesn't really have much effect on me one way or another, but I can see it being tougher on the longer or two-legged commutes that some people do.

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Originally Posted by Roy Biggins (Post 3806397)

It feels like they're about to pi$$ on our back and tell us it's raining. Commuters certainly are not going to like this.

5 day trips are awful. They should go away completely.

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Originally Posted by Wasntme (Post 3806537)

5 day trips are awful. They should go away completely.

So, they should go away because YOU don’t like them? Very few people get “stuck” with 5-days. Some commuters like them because they can do three commutable 5-days and be done for the month. The better option is to try and tailor the amount of commutable trips and day trips to the desires of the pilot group.