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#43
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Joined: Dec 2024
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Commuting to short call is an issue, why put yourself through that, majors have practically eliminated short call. The people from my early 2023 class who didn’t jump to the majors are still on short call too. With little to no light at the end of the tunnel.
#44
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Joined: Jan 2024
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#45
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Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 1,164
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The reserve list is essentially an excel document send out once in the morning, and you don’t know what time you will be on short call until the day before means for a horrid QOL. Crew scheduling abusing the fact it’s so hard to determine when you are supposed to get called so you are always working trips you shouldn’t be. Living in a crashpad for days at a time. The crews at JetBlue are wonderful but everybody who is not a Pilot or an FA is fighting you. Commuting to Delta has been life changing for the better.
So what makes it the worst place ever is:
1. You being junior and came in right when we stopped growth
AND
2. You not yet having a good grasp on reserve rules in the CBA?
Yeah wait for Crew Scheduling, at ANY airline, to tell you when they're wrong and you should refuse the trip they're currently assigning you.
I mean.....insert any airline name that decides to stop growth for whatever reason, that you have to commute to, and you'll have similar results.
This is exactly what happened when any airline in the past stopped hiring. The junior person gets the suck. Your option is to get to a different airline that still has movement or wait it out for growth to resume.
#46
New Hire
Joined: Dec 2024
Posts: 5
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So what makes it the worst place ever is:
1. You being junior and came in right when we stopped growth
AND
2. You not yet having a good grasp on reserve rules in the CBA?
Yeah wait for Crew Scheduling, at ANY airline, to tell you when they're wrong and you should refuse the trip they're currently assigning you.
I mean.....insert any airline name that decides to stop growth for whatever reason, that you have to commute to, and you'll have similar results.
This is exactly what happened when any airline in the past stopped hiring. The junior person gets the suck. Your option is to get to a different airline that still has movement or wait it out for growth to resume.
1. You being junior and came in right when we stopped growth
AND
2. You not yet having a good grasp on reserve rules in the CBA?
Yeah wait for Crew Scheduling, at ANY airline, to tell you when they're wrong and you should refuse the trip they're currently assigning you.
I mean.....insert any airline name that decides to stop growth for whatever reason, that you have to commute to, and you'll have similar results.
This is exactly what happened when any airline in the past stopped hiring. The junior person gets the suck. Your option is to get to a different airline that still has movement or wait it out for growth to resume.
It’s also the lack of profit sharing, the CBA being years behind other airlines, essentially 0 pay in training, a predatory reserve assignment desk and no insight of hiring again. Why would anybody join if growth and hiring would be so slow they would be on the chopping block for years if anything else went wrong. If the opportunity presented it self why wouldn’t any reasonable person not go to a company with better benefits, pay, profit sharing, a fair contract non rev rules, that’s actively hiring and growing.
#47
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 3,274
Likes: 55
From: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
It’s also the lack of profit sharing, the CBA being years behind other airlines, essentially 0 pay in training, a predatory reserve assignment desk and no insight of hiring again. Why would anybody join if growth and hiring would be so slow they would be on the chopping block for years if anything else went wrong. If the opportunity presented it self why wouldn’t any reasonable person not go to a company with better benefits, pay, profit sharing, a fair contract non rev rules, that’s actively hiring and growing.
#48
Line Holder
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 1,164
Likes: 37
It’s also the lack of profit sharing, the CBA being years behind other airlines, essentially 0 pay in training, a predatory reserve assignment desk and no insight of hiring again. Why would anybody join if growth and hiring would be so slow they would be on the chopping block for years if anything else went wrong. If the opportunity presented it self why wouldn’t any reasonable person not go to a company with better benefits, pay, profit sharing, a fair contract non rev rules, that’s actively hiring and growing.
I bid reserve a lot and have not experienced your "predatory reserve assignment desk". I ensure I know the reserve rules and whenever I think they are interpreting something wrong(which is not often), I call them out on it, they fix it and move on. It's just that simple. No drama.
Profit sharing......so you came here in 2023 to a company that has not been profitable since 2019 and expected profit sharing?
CBA behind.....I mean have you been following what has been going on at the company for the past few years? Even before you joined? There are reasons why we are on a CBA extension. I believe you know why since you use to work here. No need for drama to justify why you moved on, if you did.
#49
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 2,712
Likes: 53
I live “in base”(within SCR call out time). I have been able to hold a line for the last 6 years and have bid reserve almost every month since.
I flew 310 hours this year and it’s my most in the last 6 years. I bid a line 2 months this year and regretted it both times.
I flew 310 hours this year and it’s my most in the last 6 years. I bid a line 2 months this year and regretted it both times.
#50
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 3,274
Likes: 55
From: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
So you move on when the opportunity presents itself. You commuted, not everyone does. So your opinion of how reserve is at JB is not shared by all, only some. Ppl purposely bid reserve here in the slow months. If it sucked as how you made it out to be, no senior person would do that. Know the CBA.
I bid reserve a lot and have not experienced your "predatory reserve assignment desk". I ensure I know the reserve rules and whenever I think they are interpreting something wrong(which is not often), I call them out on it, they fix it and move on. It's just that simple. No drama.
Profit sharing......so you came here in 2023 to a company that has not been profitable since 2019 and expected profit sharing?
CBA behind.....I mean have you been following what has been going on at the company for the past few years? Even before you joined? There are reasons why we are on a CBA extension. I believe you know why since you use to work here. No need for drama to justify why you moved on, if you did.
I bid reserve a lot and have not experienced your "predatory reserve assignment desk". I ensure I know the reserve rules and whenever I think they are interpreting something wrong(which is not often), I call them out on it, they fix it and move on. It's just that simple. No drama.
Profit sharing......so you came here in 2023 to a company that has not been profitable since 2019 and expected profit sharing?
CBA behind.....I mean have you been following what has been going on at the company for the past few years? Even before you joined? There are reasons why we are on a CBA extension. I believe you know why since you use to work here. No need for drama to justify why you moved on, if you did.


