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[Speculation] AK / B6 let's go!
12-31-2024 | 12:09 PM
#41
SDQ Base Chief
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From: 320 CA
All from wakeman at recurrent this week-
- we're (relatively) cheap, and Alaska supposedly has the money and a want to get us to be national competitor, they expect calls with discussion to merge very soon/in the next year (can't speak to anything right now)
- some talks occurred during spirit merger attempt w/ B6/AS for a large combined national carrier
- Pratt opening up another factory, new engines coming out don't have issues
- estimate resolution for engines to be late 2026 as opposed to 2028 initially.
- JB will see about getting back some of deferred orders when this is resolved
- early outs offered within coming weeks, going to be for folks 55+
- if 50% take early outs we'll be hiring before end of the coming year
- if nobody takes early outs hiring early
-growing by mid next year, biggest JetBlue has ever been as the previously to be retired 320's are sticking around now and after 190's gone we net positive aircraft
Spark notes
01-01-2025 | 03:33 AM
#42
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All from wakeman at recurrent this week-
-growing by mid next year, biggest JetBlue has ever been as the previously to be retired 320's are sticking around now and after 190's gone we net positive aircraft
Spark notes
- we're (relatively) cheap, and Alaska supposedly has the money and a want to get us to be national competitor, they expect calls with discussion to merge very soon/in the next year (can't speak to anything right now)
- some talks occurred during spirit merger attempt w/ B6/AS for a large combined national carrier
- Pratt opening up another factory, new engines coming out don't have issues
- estimate resolution for engines to be late 2026 as opposed to 2028 initially.
- JB will see about getting back some of deferred orders when this is resolved
- early outs offered within coming weeks, going to be for folks 55+
- if 50% take early outs we'll be hiring before end of the coming year
- if nobody takes early outs hiring early
-growing by mid next year, biggest JetBlue has ever been as the previously to be retired 320's are sticking around now and after 190's gone we net positive aircraft
Spark notes
Also he’s about 8 levels below anyone who would actually have knowledge of any talks.
01-01-2025 | 03:38 AM
#43
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From: 320 CA
Yeah im not putting that much stock into it. I think AS/B6 would make a fine combo but don’t think it will happen for at least another 2yrs
01-01-2025 | 04:32 AM
#44
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Those in the know are not at liberty to talk about a merger. And the group who knows is very small.
You have to wonder who typed this info and credited it to a specific individual. It’s weird behavior with little to gain from it.
You have to wonder who typed this info and credited it to a specific individual. It’s weird behavior with little to gain from it.
01-01-2025 | 06:36 AM
#45
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There are a few pilots here with nothing better to do.
01-01-2025 | 08:06 AM
#46
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My speculation based on previous experience at the recurrent lunches:
Mgmt: What questions do you have for me?
Pilot: Are we merging with Alaska?
Mgmt: Look, you know, I'll find out when I see it in the news, the same time you guys do. But, I mean, it would make sense. We are relatively cheap right now and combined, we could be a strong competitor.
Pilot: If it did happen, when would it happen?
Mgmt: I really couldn't say, it's just speculation.
Pilot: But, could it happen soon? Like next year?
Mgmt: In theory, I guess they could call any time.
And someone jots down the notes and spreads the "news."
Mgmt: What questions do you have for me?
Pilot: Are we merging with Alaska?
Mgmt: Look, you know, I'll find out when I see it in the news, the same time you guys do. But, I mean, it would make sense. We are relatively cheap right now and combined, we could be a strong competitor.
Pilot: If it did happen, when would it happen?
Mgmt: I really couldn't say, it's just speculation.
Pilot: But, could it happen soon? Like next year?
Mgmt: In theory, I guess they could call any time.
And someone jots down the notes and spreads the "news."
01-01-2025 | 08:52 AM
#47
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Joined: Mar 2006
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From: 320 CA
My speculation based on previous experience at the recurrent lunches:
Mgmt: What questions do you have for me?
Pilot: Are we merging with Alaska?
Mgmt: Look, you know, I'll find out when I see it in the news, the same time you guys do. But, I mean, it would make sense. We are relatively cheap right now and combined, we could be a strong competitor.
Pilot: If it did happen, when would it happen?
Mgmt: I really couldn't say, it's just speculation.
Pilot: But, could it happen soon? Like next year?
Mgmt: In theory, I guess they could call any time.
And someone jots down the notes and spreads the "news."
Mgmt: What questions do you have for me?
Pilot: Are we merging with Alaska?
Mgmt: Look, you know, I'll find out when I see it in the news, the same time you guys do. But, I mean, it would make sense. We are relatively cheap right now and combined, we could be a strong competitor.
Pilot: If it did happen, when would it happen?
Mgmt: I really couldn't say, it's just speculation.
Pilot: But, could it happen soon? Like next year?
Mgmt: In theory, I guess they could call any time.
And someone jots down the notes and spreads the "news."
01-01-2025 | 12:44 PM
#48
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I just don't see how Alaska could possibly be talking about another merger when they currently have their hands full. If someone does decide to merge with or acquire JetBlue, they have 4 years to get it done. The clock starts soon.
01-01-2025 | 02:23 PM
#49
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From: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
If it is AS I think they could do it under any administration. Only thing imho that would push things up is if (IF) jet forward actually works, we woukd be much more expensive.
01-09-2025 | 08:57 AM
#50
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Joined: May 2019
Posts: 357
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From: NYC Based 320 CA
All from wakeman at recurrent this week-
-growing by mid next year, biggest JetBlue has ever been as the previously to be retired 320's are sticking around now and after 190's gone we net positive aircraft
Spark notes
- we're (relatively) cheap, and Alaska supposedly has the money and a want to get us to be national competitor, they expect calls with discussion to merge very soon/in the next year (can't speak to anything right now)
- some talks occurred during spirit merger attempt w/ B6/AS for a large combined national carrier
- Pratt opening up another factory, new engines coming out don't have issues
- estimate resolution for engines to be late 2026 as opposed to 2028 initially.
- JB will see about getting back some of deferred orders when this is resolved
- early outs offered within coming weeks, going to be for folks 55+
- if 50% take early outs we'll be hiring before end of the coming year
- if nobody takes early outs hiring early
-growing by mid next year, biggest JetBlue has ever been as the previously to be retired 320's are sticking around now and after 190's gone we net positive aircraft
Spark notes
I dont know why people feel the need to make up misinformation. Does no one any good.
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