Thanks, Mike for a thoughtful response. It's a shame the industry has deteriorated to this level, but many young people continue to be seduced by aviation and will do what is necessary to get to that dream.

Thanks, too, MHM. btw, do you miss Kai Tak? I do.

How is he participating in lowering the standard pay for pilots?

-LAFF

Who edited to How...

Ok, I'll try my hand at your question, LAFF. (Mike and MHM, again correct me if I'm wrong).

The original premise is that JetBlue pays poorly, has poor work rules, etc etc. The pilots are not happy. Some will have enough and leave. If ToiletDuck then applies for the job, he will likely be paid the poor wages which caused the other guy to leave. As long as a company has a supply of eager people willing to take poorly paying jobs, it will have no reason to raise its wages.

The conundrum is what should be done about this, if anything can be done at all.

Work at jet blue, log hours untill something better comes along. Alot of folks complain about the new eager pilots, when these same complainers, did the same thing when they started their career. http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/hypocrite

Thanks...Maybe the original poster will try to explain himself...I don't buy your answer.

-LAFF

when you guys refer to "crash pad" does that mean that they are having you all share the same hotel room? I guess that would be kind of annoying.

From past experience as a passenger and at a university that works close with jetBlue, I agree that jetBlue is an airline that is doing its best to survive in this industry, and I have alot of respect for this carrier and their crew members (B6 term for all employees). All airlines go through rough times and this is their time, but they are gonna bounce back, some might not like jetblue but they are doing a great job in all areas, and are expanding in the right direction. Thanks just felt like sharing my part

Can pilot's at JB even file a grievance since there is no union? Maybe that could be the main negative point about JB; the feeling that as a pilot, you don't have anyone "in your corner," so to speak.

No, you can't file a grievance. That's only for pilots with contracts. At B6 you are on your own. You can be fired at any time for any reason. The "contract" isn't worth the paper its written on at B6 because its an individual service contract. They are under no obligation to continue paying the wage you hired in on nor maintain the work rules in place the day you got hired.

B6 is a cancer on the airline industry.

Most airlines provide each crewmember with their own hotel room while they are on a trip.

When you hear someone refer to a crash pad it is usually for crew members who do not live in a base they have to report to. Example, you live in Chicago but you are based in New York. You have to arrive at your base the night before if the trip leaves early. You have to pay for this on your own so you get together with other people that commute to save money by rooming together in a "crash pad", also at times called a "animal house".