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mike734 11-24-2006 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by fecav8r (Post 84145)
I've known a couple of people who left FedEx because they hated it. Does that mean nobody should come to replace him?

A couple of pilots is not 99% expressing the same opinion. Did I miss something I guess I don't understand your question.

Gman 11-24-2006 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by Velocipede (Post 84089)
G(scab)man,

Shame on you. A former ALPA member who willingly went to work for a non-union company who for the past 6 years has actively undercut Union contracts.

Bet you'd cross the first picket line you come to just to get another flying job after B6 collapses.

YOU are just another cancer cell in the B6 tumor.

Hey Unionlover,
I am surprised that YOU of all people does not know what a scab is.
I never have or would cross a picket line.
Leaving the American Eagle/closed shop ALPA ****hole was one of the happiest days of my career.
For a moment I knew how a POW feels when he gets released from prison...
If B6 is a tumor then ALPA is the plague.
Judging from your picture it seems you have already caught it.

Velocipede 11-25-2006 05:29 AM

I guess you don't know how to use a dictionary. Look up 'scab'. The 4th definition fits you and all your B6 buddies to a "T".

Moose 11-25-2006 10:58 AM

Velocipede,
What is with this scab crap? After reading several of your posts I bet I could go to a dictionary and find many words that would fit you to a tee. Try and be a professional and tone down your hostility a bit.

all4114all 11-26-2006 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by Velocipede (Post 84566)
I guess you don't know how to use a dictionary. Look up 'scab'. The 4th definition fits you and all your B6 buddies to a "T".

The airline industry has been in turmoil since pre 911. There has been a lot of pain suffered by the employees. Some folks like to place blame for their suffering, so they lash out at anyone that threatens them. This gentleman refers to anyone taking a job today in aviation a scab because they start at lower wages. The truth is this same person begged, borrowed and stole his way into the airline business, starting at a very low wage. His wages increased only due to the fact that the senior pilots looked after the newer pilots at that time.

Someone needs to walk in others shoes for awhile and reminisce what it was like when he started in aviation and stop the finger pointing at others. Look in the mirror and ask, “what am I doing to make this a better place for future workers?”



PS Say hi to your cousin Shrek for me.

joel payne 11-26-2006 06:26 PM

What is the general feeling among JB pilots about EXCEEDING the 8 hour crew duty time limitation, as far as "fatigue" is concerned?

Slice 11-26-2006 06:30 PM

I don't work for JB but I'm all for it as long as you cap the max duty day at 12 hours...The powers that be would never go for that though.

Indy refugee 11-29-2006 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by joel payne (Post 85092)
What is the general feeling among JB pilots about EXCEEDING the 8 hour crew duty time limitation, as far as "fatigue" is concerned?


The crew DUTY limit is a ridiculous 16 hours!!!

What do you think about ALPA supporting maintaining the 16 hour duty day?!? (as far as fatigue goes, I mean!!)

Indy refugee 11-29-2006 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by Velocipede (Post 84566)
I guess you don't know how to use a dictionary. Look up 'scab'. The 4th definition fits you and all your B6 buddies to a "T".


4. a worker who refuses to join a labor union or to participate in a union strike, who takes a striking worker's place on the job, or the like.

OK, here's the 4th definition you spoke of.

Has anyone at JB refused to join a labor union?
There is no union to join, so the answer is NO!! ( I know there are a couple from previous properties, but they ARE scabs and we all have a couple of those, CAL, UAL, AirTran, etc.)

Has anyone at JB refused to participate in a union strike?
Once again, no strike, no scabs!!

Has anyone at JB taken a striking worker's place on the job?
Again no strike, no scab.

So bottom line, if you continue to overuse the word SCAB, it will no longer have any meaning.

fecav8r 11-29-2006 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by mike734 (Post 84349)
A couple of pilots is not 99% expressing the same opinion. Did I miss something I guess I don't understand your question.

OK, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that the 99% you mention is what the vote was for a strike authorization. If so, I don't think you can really say that means 99% hate their jobs. We would have done the same thing at FedEx if we had been asked.


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