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Old 10-21-2024 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Bgood
Rumor from a month aguh. I believe it's from recurrent class when flight ops mgmt usually gives an update. Attrition is at 100 per year. Stagnation until mid 2026, growth should start again by then. The number thrown around was overstaffed by 300 pilots. Hiring window won't open again until late 2025. This is an ESTIMATE.

With Alaska/Hawaiian and AA already resuming hiring and expecting DL and UAL to follow suit, I expect our attrition numbers will rise.
United has been hiring all year except for a summer pause in June and part of July. We have new hire classes almost every week and going to hire 2,000+ in 2025.
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Old 10-21-2024 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Supermid
As soon as legacies start hiring again there won't be attrition here, there will be exodus. The bottom 1000 here have absolutely no reason to stay at all.
If you're not a commuter and leaving for a legacy would turn you into one, that's a great reason to stay. I think being junior *and* commuting to this company, though, yeah I'd tend to agree... except that the bottom 1000 may not be as marketable as they once were. A lot of 1500TT/0 PIC guys/gals in that group.
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Old 10-21-2024 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by MergingTargets
especially now that the big 4 aren't just hiring anyone with a pulse.
I guess there's now a fourth legacy........a good pilot is always learning right?
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Old 10-21-2024 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by MergingTargets
yeah I'd tend to agree... except that the bottom 1000 may not be as marketable as they once were. A lot of 1500TT/0 PIC guys/gals in that group.

It is true that legacy hiring is becoming more competitive.........however some cold hard facts remain:

1.JetBlue is not a regional or fee for departure carrier

2.Contrary to what some influencer pilot may claim, leaving a regional for an ULCC/LCC is NOT a lateral move.

3. Being on property at B6 already makes you more competitive than a Regional pilot.
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Old 10-21-2024 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 11atsomto
I guess there's now a fourth legacy........a good pilot is always learning right?
Well, Alaska and hawaiian are legacies. So there’s that.
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Old 10-21-2024 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by I was inverted
Well, Alaska and hawaiian are legacies. So there’s that.
For years pilot recruiters SkyWest claimed "We are a major airline, we just operate as a regional" ................

yeah and at the time they paid about as good as Pizza Hut with no Union.........what a deal!!!
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Old 10-21-2024 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 11atsomto
For years pilot recruiters SkyWest claimed "We are a major airline, we just operate as a regional" ................

yeah and at the time they paid about as good as Pizza Hut with no Union.........what a deal!!!
I don’t think you understand the difference between a major, a legacy, and the “big 3” or “big 4.”
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Old 10-21-2024 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by I was inverted
I don’t think you understand the difference between a major, a legacy, and the “big 3” or “big 4.”
Well how I see it the TOP of the FOOD Chain is:

Delta, American, United.......

Tell me how I am wrong?

You can call it what you want. I don't really care what some legal footnoted definition is.
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Old 10-21-2024 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 11atsomto
Well how I see it the TOP of the FOOD Chain is:

Delta, American, United.......

Tell me how I am wrong?

You can call it what you want. I don't really care what some legal footnoted definition is.
The big 4 are Delta, AA, United, and Southwest. I didn't make it up; this is widely accepted in the industry. Remember, Southwest is still the largest US carrier by passenger count.
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Old 10-21-2024 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 11atsomto
Well how I see it the TOP of the FOOD Chain is:

Delta, American, United.......

Tell me how I am wrong?

You can call it what you want. I don't really care what some legal footnoted definition is.
It’s not some legal footnote. It’s industry standard terminology that apparently you missed at some point when you joined this profession. A legacy is any airline that participated in interstate commerce when deregulation happened, hence why SWA isn’t one (they were only flying within Texas at the time).

Why do they call it the big 4? Well, what did your ex-CEO tout the whole time he tried to get the NK merger approved? That 4 airlines control 80% of the marketshare, and B6 was such a small player they couldn’t compete. So, yeah, the “big 4” are a lot bigger than everyone else. Why do they call it the big 3? Well because they are the 3 largest global carriers in America (and the world), and SWA is largely just domestic, so sometimes people exclude them for that reason. This has nothing to do with Skywest, legal footnotes, your own personal food chain, etc. You’re welcome.
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