Originally Posted by aewanabe

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Deliveries looking forward: 2015, 12 with 5 already here; 2016, 10; 2017, 10; 2018, 6; 2019, 15; 2020, 15; 2021, 16 and 2022, 16. All deliveries from now until 2019 are 321 CEOs (legacy engines). 2018 is 5 321 CEOs and the first 320 NEO. All deliveries after 2018 are 320 NEO, with the first jet built in Mobile slated to come to JetBlue. No current orders for 321NEO/LR, but the thought is that will be next. 330s well off in the distance, at least 5 years due to the initial investment to make a viable fleet size.

Originally Posted by aewanabe

Some numbers from today's leadership briefing at Recurrent, for those of you interested: hiring for the year projected at 300, with 100 of those already in class or on property. We've forecasted attrition at 130 for the year, with the current number tracking that exactly. The 300 number takes the attrition into account, with the vast majority being years 1-3 bailing for the big 3. No E190 deliveries until 2021, which will be E2 versions if at all. Leadership feeling is we probably won't end up taking those. If we do it will be to replace older jets and keep the fleet count level at 60. Based on our experience as the 190 launch customer we won't take E2s without seeing someone else have success with them first.

Deliveries looking forward: 2015, 12 with 5 already here; 2016, 10; 2017, 10; 2018, 6; 2019, 15; 2020, 15; 2021, 16 and 2022, 16. All deliveries from now until 2019 are 321 CEOs (legacy engines). 2018 is 5 321 CEOs and the first 320 NEO. All deliveries after 2018 are 320 NEO, with the first jet built in Mobile slated to come to JetBlue. No current orders for 321NEO/LR, but the thought is that will be next. 330s well off in the distance, at least 5 years due to the initial investment to make a viable fleet size.

Since this info comes from our official leadership briefing it is, of course, subject to change at a moment's notice. Hope this helps and good luck to those of you trying to come here.

Originally Posted by OVBIII

Are the yearly increases in the aircraft been about standard from the last couple of years? Or are those numbers bigger? Reason I ask is assuming about 12 pilots per plane that would be averaging 120+ new hires a year per plane (which I figure they are taking that into account with the 300? I am still learning all this. I am currently in phase 2 of the hiring process and looking forward to all the potential growth.

Originally Posted by aewanabe

We staff at 14 pilots/jet, so 14x12 equals 168 for growth plus 130 for attrition equals 300 for the year (298 for non-pilot math). 100 of those are here already so 200 more to go for the year. Next year is 10 deliveries so 140 pilots behind you next year not counting attrition (retirements, which are single-digit for the year, plus guys leaving for elsewhere which will continue to be 100-150 as long as the big 3 keep hiring big numbers). Make more sense now? Congrats on phase 2 and we hope to welcome you aboard soon!

As far as the actual delivery numbers go, the curve has been flattened a bit. Previously we were expecting 18 jets this year and next which were making both Wall St and our CFO nervous with the capacity expansion and capital expenditures that would have been required. So by taking 12 for now we've pushed the back end of our current planned deliveries out by a few years. Clear as mud?

Originally Posted by aewanabe

Some numbers from today's leadership briefing at Recurrent, for those of you interested: hiring for the year projected at 300, with 100 of those already in class or on property. We've forecasted attrition at 130 for the year, with the current number tracking that exactly. The 300 number takes the attrition into account, with the vast majority being years 1-3 bailing for the big 3. No E190 deliveries until 2021, which will be E2 versions if at all. Leadership feeling is we probably won't end up taking those. If we do it will be to replace older jets and keep the fleet count level at 60. Based on our experience as the 190 launch customer we won't take E2s without seeing someone else have success with them first.

Deliveries looking forward: 2015, 12 with 5 already here; 2016, 10; 2017, 10; 2018, 6; 2019, 15; 2020, 15; 2021, 16 and 2022, 16. All deliveries from now until 2019 are 321 CEOs (legacy engines). 2018 is 5 321 CEOs and the first 320 NEO. All deliveries after 2018 are 320 NEO, with the first jet built in Mobile slated to come to JetBlue. No current orders for 321NEO/LR, but the thought is that will be next. 330s well off in the distance, at least 5 years due to the initial investment to make a viable fleet size.

Since this info comes from our official leadership briefing it is, of course, subject to change at a moment's notice. Hope this helps and good luck to those of you trying to come here.

Originally Posted by Snickers

Thank you very much for this post!



Based on this information, do you believe the relatively quick upgrades will stick around for guys hired soon?

Originally Posted by Snickers

Thank you very much for this post!

Based on this information, do you believe the relatively quick upgrades will stick around for guys hired soon?

Originally Posted by Pitchtrip83

very happy to have been called for the May 13 new hire class I hear it's going to be the biggest of the year.

Can anyone give more insight on the training schedules lately at the lodge? People going home weekends? Large breaks? Still get to bid on said schedule based on seniority? (Take breaks or get through faster) good food?

Any info would be great can't wait to start!