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If I guy wants to fly 100 hours who give a hoot. I want to fly 75. Does that make me better?
The pay raise should have been 18% period. As it stands I am rewarded for flying less and southerner takes a pay cut for working more but neither one of us gets the advertised 13% pay raise. |
I don't really care either I'm just looking at it from a view point of more pilots, upgrades, possibly better flying lines, etc. Spread the wealth! I wasn't singling out any particular pilot, I was just making a general statement but I guess some/one in particular took it personal and chimed in.
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jetBlue Hiring
I just don't think it's anyone's business how much someone else flies. Maybe we should all bid min schedule so they have to hire more? Spread the wealth, like a communist nation?
I'm no Flica *****, but I swap things around and PTO stuff to make my schedule better. I have 17 days off this month, with good credit. |
Originally Posted by Southerner
(Post 1521708)
Spread the wealth, like a communist nation?
Keeps the group from becoming top heavy and increases job security for more junior pilots. Granted they didn't have PTO sell back or anything like that. It would have been irrelevant because the block hour limits are what preserved job security. This brings up an interesting point though. Should the JetBlue pilot group ever become a union, there will need to be a big cultural shift toward "unity" - one for all, and all for one. That is where ALPA has historically failed in favor of their typical model - "I've got mine, screw you" |
Originally Posted by benzoate
(Post 1521701)
If I guy wants to fly 100 hours who give a hoot. I want to fly 75. Does that make me better?
The pay raise should have been 18% period. As it stands I am rewarded for flying less and southerner takes a pay cut for working more but neither one of us gets the advertised 13% pay raise. |
Anyone know when the next window is expected to open?
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
(Post 1521741)
That's an over simplification. Most union pilot groups have a pay cap. At Airways back in the day it was 85 hours. Any soft time you went over went into a negative bank that could be cashed in in the future to fill out a line with less work. Keeps the group from becoming top heavy and increases job security for more junior pilots. Granted they didn't have PTO sell back or anything like that. It would have been irrelevant because the block hour limits are what preserved job security. This brings up an interesting point though. Should the JetBlue pilot group ever become a union, there will need to be a big cultural shift toward "unity" - one for all, and all for one. That is where ALPA has historically failed in favor of their typical model - "I've got mine, screw you" I'm normally a "work as little as possible" kindof guy. That's why I like the max schedule guys to some extent. They make it possible to work less. |
Originally Posted by ftrflyboy
(Post 1521813)
Anyone know when the next window is expected to open?
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
(Post 1521741)
That's an over simplification. Most union pilot groups have a pay cap. At Airways back in the day it was 85 hours. Any soft time you went over went into a negative bank that could be cashed in in the future to fill out a line with less work.
Keeps the group from becoming top heavy and increases job security for more junior pilots. Granted they didn't have PTO sell back or anything like that. It would have been irrelevant because the block hour limits are what preserved job security. This brings up an interesting point though. Should the JetBlue pilot group ever become a union, there will need to be a big cultural shift toward "unity" - one for all, and all for one. That is where ALPA has historically failed in favor of their typical model - "I've got mine, screw you" |
Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
(Post 1521741)
That's an over simplification. Most union pilot groups have a pay cap. At Airways back in the day it was 85 hours. Any soft time you went over went into a negative bank that could be cashed in in the future to fill out a line with less work.
Keeps the group from becoming top heavy and increases job security for more junior pilots. Granted they didn't have PTO sell back or anything like that. It would have been irrelevant because the block hour limits are what preserved job security. This brings up an interesting point though. Should the JetBlue pilot group ever become a union, there will need to be a big cultural shift toward "unity" - one for all, and all for one. That is where ALPA has historically failed in favor of their typical model - "I've got mine, screw you" |
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