jetBlue Hiring
10-26-2016 | 10:16 AM
#9121
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Yes, if I recall right, it was about 15% last year. Next year with the same profit margin it'd be only 10%. Down by 5%. So stop spouting 8% raise. Whether it's variable or "solid" it's not 8%.
(Next you'll be happy with a TA that takes away all our benefits but has a "nice pay rate increase" - it's not a good TA if it doesn't have both)
(Next you'll be happy with a TA that takes away all our benefits but has a "nice pay rate increase" - it's not a good TA if it doesn't have both)
10-26-2016 | 10:18 AM
#9122
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Still some debate about how it all actually works. Here's how im currently seeing it.
Last year was profit sharing worth 20.87% of your eligible income, -5% JB cliff = 15.87% which was paid to us.
Under the new formula, we lose one third of the profit sharing pool, so would have been 13.91% minus the 5% JB cliff, so they would have paid us 8.91% vs 15.87%.
A LOSS of 7%. That's using last year's profit. 2017 and beyond could be more or less.
Last year was profit sharing worth 20.87% of your eligible income, -5% JB cliff = 15.87% which was paid to us.
Under the new formula, we lose one third of the profit sharing pool, so would have been 13.91% minus the 5% JB cliff, so they would have paid us 8.91% vs 15.87%.
A LOSS of 7%. That's using last year's profit. 2017 and beyond could be more or less.
Thank you for the level headed response. I've been here about a year and half and didn't get the full PS last year, so i have nothing to compare.
10-26-2016 | 10:43 AM
#9124
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When I went to Vets in blue they said military pointy nose was about 1000, military other was about 2500-3000 and all civilian types were about 4000 hours. This was just something they said in the morning brief so YMMV. It was also a year ago so who knows.
10-26-2016 | 10:56 AM
#9125
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I went to that same VIB and I thought I remember the slide showing competitive mins being 2k for fighter guys, 3-4k for mil transport, and 5-6k for civ. I don't know of anyone with 1k hours, even in fighters, being competitive here, or anywhere that isn't a regional.
10-26-2016 | 11:44 AM
#9126
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Maybe that was it. Did you get hired from that VIB. Good group and it's very impressive what they put on for Vets.
10-26-2016 | 12:09 PM
#9127
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10-26-2016 | 07:47 PM
#9128
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is harder than what Jetblue does.
10-26-2016 | 09:02 PM
#9129
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From: At JBLU
I used to believe as you do.
As someone who has worked at both airlines, JetBlue is I suspect like many other majors. The flying is more difficult at JetBlue than ASA. Overwater ops, foreign operations. It is in every way more professional than ASA ever was.
Nowhere as militant however. We could use that right now.
10-27-2016 | 06:31 AM
#9130
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From: Ablue320
I used to believe as you do.
As someone who has worked at both airlines, JetBlue is I suspect like many other majors. The flying is more difficult at JetBlue than ASA. Overwater ops, foreign operations. It is in every way more professional than ASA ever was.
Nowhere as militant however. We could use that right now.
As someone who has worked at both airlines, JetBlue is I suspect like many other majors. The flying is more difficult at JetBlue than ASA. Overwater ops, foreign operations. It is in every way more professional than ASA ever was.
Nowhere as militant however. We could use that right now.
That being said, I would agree and say it is harder to come straight to JetBlue with no 121 time than it would be to go to ASA.
More professional, absolutely!
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