Originally Posted by Southerner

Ummm. I made no value judgement. I'll find out the precise average from this last window, and let you know what it is. I do know for a fact that it is no lower than 4,000, so it is between 4K and 5K.

As far as being amazing here, I'm happy working here. There are things that need work, and guess what, we voted in ALPA and are negotiating a contract that will fix those things. I've spoken several times with NC members, and I'm pleased with what they say.

Am I a bitter jerk who hates my life? No, but I don't derive my happiness from my job or my company. If that makes me a juicer, so be it. Those who actually know me know that I call things how they are. I don't make things up to fit an agenda.

If you are unhappy here, you should go to an airline that will make you happy. (Spoiler alert: If you expect a company to make you happy, you're in for a lifetime of disappointment.) Plenty of airlines are hiring. The rest of us will stay here and work on fixing the things that need work.

Originally Posted by fjetter

I interviewed in November with just under 5000TT and 1500TPIC it felt like many interviewing had similar time. Many did not necessarily have the TPIC but were long time 121 regional FOs

Originally Posted by say again

I agree with this. Not perfect by any means, but things will get better. Until then, I will continue to enjoy the job and the pilots I fly with.

Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot

"Things getting better" doesnt do it. It shows how weak this pilot group has acted. We need, and should demand, a contract that resembles legacy carriers. Im not saying Industry-leading, but Industry-standard should be demanded and that would be "Things getting MUCH better".
Wake up guys- its gonna get worse before it gets better.

Originally Posted by Bluedriver

Don't pee on their juicing parade. They are focused on the fun they have at work and are only slightly discomforted by the fact that we are compensated 30-40% below our peers and completely underestimating how long it's going to take until "things will get better".

Things MAY get better, but it will take a LONG time and frankly none of us know how much of the compensation gap will actually get closed.

Also, with pilots being in shorter supply going forward, and JetBlue being a narrow-body only airline with only a chance of a small token fleet of future wide-bodies and no pilot retirements, we ARE IN REAL DANGER OF HAVING TO REDUCE OUR FUTURE GROWTH RATE DUE TO NOT ATTRACTING ENOUGH PILOTS. Even with a new contract.

We will be slow growing with narrow body aircraft and no retirements. This is a very REAL future possibility for us!

Originally Posted by Stringfellow

Fair enough, but do we need to treat each other like bitter, angry jerks while all of this plays out? I am by far not a "juicer," but I WILL NOT let this nonsense ruin my health. I choose to be happy. If you have an issue with that, go be miserable somewhere else.

Originally Posted by Stringfellow

Fair enough, but do we need to treat each other like bitter, angry jerks while all of this plays out? I am by far not a "juicer," but I WILL NOT let this nonsense ruin my health. I choose to be happy. If you have an issue with that, go be miserable somewhere else.

Originally Posted by pilotpayne

Agree.
This is getting very old. I don't think most guys just want to sit back and let things happen or are they happy with the pay difference. If that was true we wouldn't be in negotiations right now trying to fix that. You want some prospective go read the Spirit thread, they are not happy that we seem to be "plowing through " sections( their words) while they have been stuck. Are we Spirit? No Should this CBA be done? Yes. But please stop with the childish name calling because people don't hate JetBlue as much as you. It's not going to help you win an argument, it will most likely just lead to guys tuning you out.

Like you said it could be a long process and we need to work together not fight each other.