jetBlue Hiring
02-08-2017, 12:20 PM
#9551
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
Posts: 2,918
Originally Posted by Bluedriver
I am happy, even happy at work. But, that doesn't mean I pleased with working for a 30-40% discount to my peers. That's money stolen from my family. So I will NOT help JetBlue staff the company in any way until it is resolved. Apparently many of you will.
The words you type in public view have nothing to do with your actual happiness, but they do carry water for management and prolong the theft of earnings and retirement monies from my family.
Congratulations to many of you from the board room in Long Island City.
The words you type in public view have nothing to do with your actual happiness, but they do carry water for management and prolong the theft of earnings and retirement monies from my family.
Congratulations to many of you from the board room in Long Island City.
This is such a false choice.
02-08-2017, 04:08 PM
#9552
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2013
Posts: 2,594
Originally Posted by Stringfellow
What I'm suggesting has nothing to do with false hope. It actually has nothing to do with any airline in particular. I choose to come to work, smile at my colleagues, tell a few jokes, open a few beers, watch a few sunrises/sunsets from my office window; and overall, try to be positive because I have an awesome wife and kids who happen to be in good health as of this moment, and that's what matters most. I would be this way AT ANY JOB. I don't care what the name of the company is, or what plane I fly. I am this way FOR ME and not for some facade or mission statement. If you can grasp this concept, it will help you still have control over your own happiness vs surrendering that control to any one given management. Otherwise, you are doomed to feel unhappy at any airline/job.
02-08-2017, 04:28 PM
#9553
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2009
Position: 737 Left
Posts: 1,825
Ladies and gentlemen currently at JetBlue,
Many of us understand your frustration with the current state of JetBlue and the ensuing negotiations, but would appreciate if you would relegate those topics to the appropriate threads and reserve this one for hiring information. Please understand that this is not an attempt to minimize the current situation, but to emphasize that there is a time and place for everything. Most who come to this thread are looking for hiring information, in many cases because they understand what is already occurring, but want to be a part of making Blue a better place for the future. There are enough other threads pointing out the negatives that including such information here is really not necessary. Please relegate those comments elsewhere.
Regards,
Those of us looking for a job for almost a decade.
Many of us understand your frustration with the current state of JetBlue and the ensuing negotiations, but would appreciate if you would relegate those topics to the appropriate threads and reserve this one for hiring information. Please understand that this is not an attempt to minimize the current situation, but to emphasize that there is a time and place for everything. Most who come to this thread are looking for hiring information, in many cases because they understand what is already occurring, but want to be a part of making Blue a better place for the future. There are enough other threads pointing out the negatives that including such information here is really not necessary. Please relegate those comments elsewhere.
Regards,
Those of us looking for a job for almost a decade.
02-08-2017, 05:19 PM
#9554
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2013
Posts: 2,594
Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
Ladies and gentlemen currently at JetBlue,
Many of us understand your frustration with the current state of JetBlue and the ensuing negotiations, but would appreciate if you would relegate those topics to the appropriate threads and reserve this one for hiring information. Please understand that this is not an attempt to minimize the current situation, but to emphasize that there is a time and place for everything. Most who come to this thread are looking for hiring information, in many cases because they understand what is already occurring, but want to be a part of making Blue a better place for the future. There are enough other threads pointing out the negatives that including such information here is really not necessary. Please relegate those comments elsewhere.
Regards,
Those of us looking for a job for almost a decade.
Many of us understand your frustration with the current state of JetBlue and the ensuing negotiations, but would appreciate if you would relegate those topics to the appropriate threads and reserve this one for hiring information. Please understand that this is not an attempt to minimize the current situation, but to emphasize that there is a time and place for everything. Most who come to this thread are looking for hiring information, in many cases because they understand what is already occurring, but want to be a part of making Blue a better place for the future. There are enough other threads pointing out the negatives that including such information here is really not necessary. Please relegate those comments elsewhere.
Regards,
Those of us looking for a job for almost a decade.
02-08-2017, 07:54 PM
#9555
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
Posts: 2,918
Originally Posted by pilotpayne
This is such a false choice.
I don't want to go round and round with you and I work at the same place as you do so I totally understand your frustration. Jetblue knows they owe us and this cba should be done. My only problem is guys take an attitude...on both sides.... that if you don't totally agree with them you are a juicer or a union thug. It's the way the country is today. We can't debate anymore without trying to shut someone down. The easy way is to label them which is what I feel you do. I honestly do not think anyone is trying to carrier water for the company they are simply giving their answers as well as their opinion, just as you do. It's like a 5 star review on amazon along with a 1 star the answer seems to always be in the middle. Again I understand where you are coming from and think you have many valid points.
02-09-2017, 04:03 AM
#9556
Banned
Joined APC: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,122
Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
Ladies and gentlemen currently at JetBlue,
Many of us understand your frustration with the current state of JetBlue and the ensuing negotiations, but would appreciate if you would relegate those topics to the appropriate threads and reserve this one for hiring information. Please understand that this is not an attempt to minimize the current situation, but to emphasize that there is a time and place for everything. Most who come to this thread are looking for hiring information, in many cases because they understand what is already occurring, but want to be a part of making Blue a better place for the future. There are enough other threads pointing out the negatives that including such information here is really not necessary. Please relegate those comments elsewhere.
Regards,
Those of us looking for a job for almost a decade.
Many of us understand your frustration with the current state of JetBlue and the ensuing negotiations, but would appreciate if you would relegate those topics to the appropriate threads and reserve this one for hiring information. Please understand that this is not an attempt to minimize the current situation, but to emphasize that there is a time and place for everything. Most who come to this thread are looking for hiring information, in many cases because they understand what is already occurring, but want to be a part of making Blue a better place for the future. There are enough other threads pointing out the negatives that including such information here is really not necessary. Please relegate those comments elsewhere.
Regards,
Those of us looking for a job for almost a decade.
02-09-2017, 05:41 AM
#9557
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,889
Originally Posted by pilotpayne
Bluedriver.
I don't want to go round and round with you and I work at the same place as you do so I totally understand your frustration. Jetblue knows they owe us and this cba should be done. My only problem is guys take an attitude...on both sides.... that if you don't totally agree with them you are a juicer or a union thug. It's the way the country is today. We can't debate anymore without trying to shut someone down. The easy way is to label them which is what I feel you do. I honestly do not think anyone is trying to carrier water for the company they are simply giving their answers as well as their opinion, just as you do. It's like a 5 star review on amazon along with a 1 star the answer seems to always be in the middle. Again I understand where you are coming from and think you have many valid points.
I don't want to go round and round with you and I work at the same place as you do so I totally understand your frustration. Jetblue knows they owe us and this cba should be done. My only problem is guys take an attitude...on both sides.... that if you don't totally agree with them you are a juicer or a union thug. It's the way the country is today. We can't debate anymore without trying to shut someone down. The easy way is to label them which is what I feel you do. I honestly do not think anyone is trying to carrier water for the company they are simply giving their answers as well as their opinion, just as you do. It's like a 5 star review on amazon along with a 1 star the answer seems to always be in the middle. Again I understand where you are coming from and think you have many valid points.
There is almost nothing we can legally do to change it. The one thing that could help our cause is management being unable to attract and retain pilots. The word is largely out, most of the guys from my previous company would ask for help 5 years ago. Now, most have NO interest. Some, sure, but most, no way.
This board is a primary source of information sharing between pilots. While we should be all publicly saying "we are so far behind, pick one of the other 5 major airlines hiring right now with superior pay, retirement, etc..", yet many on here are cheerleaders for JetBlue. They can't let a negative post go unanswered. Often you included. When someone posts negative info, you guys have to chime right in and soften it, every time.
Why can't negative posts just be left unanswered? Who are you guys helping by softening them?
Well, I personally think it is one of two reasons. Either you guys care more about helping JetBlue recruit pilots because you want the classes filled for your own seniority benefit, or you can't stand the thought of your former friends and co-workers who went to DL, UAL or AA just how far behind them you are. Or probably both reasons combined.Not just you, but all the band-of-blue warriors on here.
If we represent a united front telling everyone how far behind we really are and not softening every negative post, we may create enough leverage to get this done soon. Then you can have your seniority, your ego AND a new contract.
Again, not directed only at you.
Some may say it probably won't work, WHY NOT TRY?
02-09-2017, 06:32 AM
#9558
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,931
Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
Ladies and gentlemen currently at JetBlue,
Many of us understand your frustration with the current state of JetBlue and the ensuing negotiations, but would appreciate if you would relegate those topics to the appropriate threads and reserve this one for hiring information. Please understand that this is not an attempt to minimize the current situation, but to emphasize that there is a time and place for everything. Most who come to this thread are looking for hiring information, in many cases because they understand what is already occurring, but want to be a part of making Blue a better place for the future. There are enough other threads pointing out the negatives that including such information here is really not necessary. Please relegate those comments elsewhere.
Regards,
Those of us looking for a job for almost a decade.
Many of us understand your frustration with the current state of JetBlue and the ensuing negotiations, but would appreciate if you would relegate those topics to the appropriate threads and reserve this one for hiring information. Please understand that this is not an attempt to minimize the current situation, but to emphasize that there is a time and place for everything. Most who come to this thread are looking for hiring information, in many cases because they understand what is already occurring, but want to be a part of making Blue a better place for the future. There are enough other threads pointing out the negatives that including such information here is really not necessary. Please relegate those comments elsewhere.
Regards,
Those of us looking for a job for almost a decade.
02-09-2017, 06:45 AM
#9559
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2008
Position: Left,Right, Left, Right,Right,Left, Right, Left
Posts: 3,150
Originally Posted by Stringfellow
What I'm suggesting has nothing to do with false hope. It actually has nothing to do with any airline in particular. I choose to come to work, smile at my colleagues, tell a few jokes, open a few beers, watch a few sunrises/sunsets from my office window; and overall, try to be positive because I have an awesome wife and kids who happen to be in good health as of this moment, and that's what matters most. I would be this way AT ANY JOB. I don't care what the name of the company is, or what plane I fly. I am this way FOR ME and not for some facade or mission statement. If you can grasp this concept, it will help you still have control over your own happiness vs surrendering that control to any one given management. Otherwise, you are doomed to feel unhappy at any airline/job.
Originally Posted by Southerner
Yes. Happiness comes from within.
Originally Posted by 121dj
Well-put, String
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There's certainly room for all the opinions pos and neg.
02-09-2017, 06:49 AM
#9560
What’s it doing now?
Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: 190CA
Posts: 726
Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Joe, bottom line, we are WAY behind in pay, work rules, retirement and benefits. The company has an anchor out dragging our progress to just enough to keep down a revolt, and the progress we are making are in sections that don't cost money.
There is almost nothing we can legally do to change it. The one thing that could help our cause is management being unable to attract and retain pilots. The word is largely out, most of the guys from my previous company would ask for help 5 years ago. Now, most have NO interest. Some, sure, but most, no way.
This board is a primary source of information sharing between pilots. While we should be all publicly saying "we are so far behind, pick one of the other 5 major airlines hiring right now with superior pay, retirement, etc..", yet many on here are cheerleaders for JetBlue. They can't let a negative post go unanswered. Often you included. When someone posts negative info, you guys have to chime right in and soften it, every time.
Why can't negative posts just be left unanswered? Who are you guys helping by softening them?
Well, I personally think it is one of two reasons. Either you guys care more about helping JetBlue recruit pilots because you want the classes filled for your own seniority benefit, or you can't stand the thought of your former friends and co-workers who went to DL, UAL or AA just how far behind them you are. Or probably both reasons combined.Not just you, but all the band-of-blue warriors on here.
If we represent a united front telling everyone how far behind we really are and not softening every negative post, we may create enough leverage to get this done soon. Then you can have your seniority, your ego AND a new contract.
Again, not directed only at you.
Some may say it probably won't work, WHY NOT TRY?
There is almost nothing we can legally do to change it. The one thing that could help our cause is management being unable to attract and retain pilots. The word is largely out, most of the guys from my previous company would ask for help 5 years ago. Now, most have NO interest. Some, sure, but most, no way.
This board is a primary source of information sharing between pilots. While we should be all publicly saying "we are so far behind, pick one of the other 5 major airlines hiring right now with superior pay, retirement, etc..", yet many on here are cheerleaders for JetBlue. They can't let a negative post go unanswered. Often you included. When someone posts negative info, you guys have to chime right in and soften it, every time.
Why can't negative posts just be left unanswered? Who are you guys helping by softening them?
Well, I personally think it is one of two reasons. Either you guys care more about helping JetBlue recruit pilots because you want the classes filled for your own seniority benefit, or you can't stand the thought of your former friends and co-workers who went to DL, UAL or AA just how far behind them you are. Or probably both reasons combined.Not just you, but all the band-of-blue warriors on here.
If we represent a united front telling everyone how far behind we really are and not softening every negative post, we may create enough leverage to get this done soon. Then you can have your seniority, your ego AND a new contract.
Again, not directed only at you.
Some may say it probably won't work, WHY NOT TRY?
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