🤣🤣🤣🤣. Touché

 

Bingo this.

I don’t think it’s happening either but I’m simply shocked that anyone who has been at a 121 carrier for more than a year or so thinks because management says something it must be true.

We are in the next part of the cycle not long ago ULCCs were going to take over the world. Round and round we go.

 

Jetblue leads the league in lies and fabrications.

We wont go west, organic growth, no mergers, moats, sharks. I mean the list is so lengthy Pinocchio’s nose touches bottom in the Mariana Trench.

I would be more inclined to believe Kirby. He’s rather mouthy and does address the merger question when asked. Jetblue uses lies and half truths. Did you know you worked for a Forbes best employer? DAL is #8 but jetblue wasn’t far behind.

 

You have been around long enough to know all management lies. Heck union guys lie and so on. What realistically is Kirby going to say (if) they wanted to merge they would deny it right up till it was announced. Again I’m not saying it’s happening I’m just saying he would never say anything. We didn’t say a word about spirit or va.

There is so much that goes on behind the scenes to pretend any of us has a clue is crazy.

 

How many time do you need to come over here and say the same thing over and over? You have literally no idea what United will do, or won’t do. You don’t even know what will happen tomorrow. If you’ve been in this industry as long as you say you have, then you know that you literally have no idea what’s around the corner. You have your best guess….that/s it. Give this pompous know it all routine a rest.

 

I will say, it looks unlikely that JetBlue will merge with anyone. Joanna and MSG seemed to have convinced the board that there’s a path forward as a VFR stand alone, east coast carrier. Good F’ing luck to us. If there was an interested party, it would likely be announced within a year. A change of admin is coming. Even if Trump runs for a 3rd term (given his ego, it’s entirely possible), it’s unlikely he’ll win it.

 

Why do a partnership and get a bunch of JFK gates if there is a merger planned? Also why convert 48 MAX 10s to MAX-9s and get those deliveries going if there is a merger planned? Why accelerate a bunch of 2030 planned A-321 NEO purchases to 2026? Why do all this if there is an imminent merger? The only thing I've heard to dispute this is "management always lies" and "you don't know anything". Well neither of those are facts, they are opinions. Its pretty clear that United is charting a course that doesn't include buying an airline or parts of an airline

Also I have as much right to "come over here" (whatever that means) as you do. This board is to discuss JetBlue. Its not the "Jetblue pilots forum". Its about anything regarding Jetblue. I'm sure you have your own internal pilot's forum. I'm sure its full of the rumors that Jetblue is imminently going to be acquired by United. I've been hearing it since 2019.

Here's a whole thread from 2019 about the impending UA/JB merger and how the SLI would even be done.

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Nobody over here gives a sh!t about United, nor do we think a merger is imminent.. The fact that your company is doing well seems to have gone to your head…though ironically, it has nothing to do with you. The only thing JetBlue pilots want is for our company to do well. If any one of us wanted to work for United, we would have applied when you were hiring anyone that could fog a mirror. Now we’re at the mercy of a failed merger and years of poor management. We’ve cast our lot. Not one of us knows what will happen tomorrow, let alone 2, 5 or 10 years down the road. Just give the self righteous know it sh!t a rest bro. You know a lot less that you think you do.

 

As things stand today I’d say this seems correct. However there’s only so long you’ll be allowed to run a company in the red before a management shakeup is called for.
I agree that Joanna and MSG are not the merger management team. That’s not what they want and it’s not what they’re here for. They are the stop the bleeding and reverse the trend of losses team.
Unlike us pilots top management is temporary and so are the strategic pieces moving around the chessboard. What’s true today may not (will likely not) be true next week, quarter, or year.

Our current managers are doing a halfway decent job of stopping the losses and there’s a chance we may even break even in the not too distant future. Does that change the calculus of a potential dance partner? I don’t know and neither does anyone on this thread.
One thing I think those of us here at JetBlue are fairly certain of is that even if we are profitable it will never be significant profit margins and that there is no long term viability in an east coast centric, VFR airline. There are three mega carriers, one domestic powerhouse and Alaska on the way up due to their strategic merger.

Nothing is imminent but it almost has to be merge, be acquired or eventually die on the vine.
We need scale and a more robust network. The way things are today, that’ll never happen with organic growth.

 

To answer your rhetorical question it’s because your management team has a clear cut plan B, if indeed a merger/acquisition is in the works.

jetblue, to the contrary, admittedly had no plan B and hence were the airline is today. That’s the difference between experienced management and jetblue management.

You can’t make this up. Management literally admitted there was no plan B.