I can't recommend JetBlue at this time
06-07-2017 | 08:08 AM
#471
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From: CA
Just wait until the summer months with the reserve grids always being in the red... Pilots are gonna be exhausted.
06-07-2017 | 08:19 AM
#472
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The numbers as they stand now, make leaving a no-brainer, but a very good CBA could change the math- Not the movement though. Thats the worst aspect of B6- retirements are abysmal, which is obviously no fault of B6 and will remain for the next 15 years. This is only 1 opinion out of 3400 pilots.
However, adjust that comparison for movement and that percentage goes up astronomically. Consider a second year FO here ($85/hr) vs second year line-holding MD88 captain at DL ($229). Not feeling the fast track to the left seat? Wait until year 4 and hold 737 captain out west ($249) or take it easy in the right seat of a 777 for $200/hr.
06-07-2017 | 08:20 AM
#473
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From: CA
The retirements are mind-blowing. We are compensated about 30-40% less than our peers when you consider apples to apples.
However, adjust that comparison for movement and that percentage goes up astronomically. Consider a second year FO here ($85/hr) vs second year line-holding MD88 captain at DL ($229). Not feeling the fast track to the left seat? Wait until year 4 and hold 737 captain out west ($249) or take it easy in the right seat of a 777 for $200/hr.
However, adjust that comparison for movement and that percentage goes up astronomically. Consider a second year FO here ($85/hr) vs second year line-holding MD88 captain at DL ($229). Not feeling the fast track to the left seat? Wait until year 4 and hold 737 captain out west ($249) or take it easy in the right seat of a 777 for $200/hr.
06-07-2017 | 08:30 AM
#474
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It's easy to talk about leaving, the difficult part is getting a call. It has only gotten tougher lately with the Legacies putting a heavy emphasis and commitment on flow programs and pref interviews.
06-07-2017 | 08:39 AM
#475
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I think the point is we shouldn't have to even talk about leaving, much less put time and energy into the effort. If they treated pilots with respect, compensated them properly and showed more competence in operating an airline this wouldn't even be a discussion.
06-07-2017 | 08:41 AM
#476
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The retirements are mind-blowing. We are compensated about 30-40% less than our peers when you consider apples to apples.
However, adjust that comparison for movement and that percentage goes up astronomically. Consider a second year FO here ($85/hr) vs second year line-holding MD88 captain at DL ($229). Not feeling the fast track to the left seat? Wait until year 4 and hold 737 captain out west ($249) or take it easy in the right seat of a 777 for $200/hr.
However, adjust that comparison for movement and that percentage goes up astronomically. Consider a second year FO here ($85/hr) vs second year line-holding MD88 captain at DL ($229). Not feeling the fast track to the left seat? Wait until year 4 and hold 737 captain out west ($249) or take it easy in the right seat of a 777 for $200/hr.
06-07-2017 | 08:48 AM
#477
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From: 737 Left
No doubt your comparable compensation needs to be better, but B6 is just as bad as everyone else.
06-07-2017 | 09:45 AM
#478
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From: Gear slinger
Don't invent additional barriers to dissuade yourself from applying. If you meet the minimum requirments throw in an application and start working on ways to improve it as you get more serious about leaving.
06-07-2017 | 10:06 AM
#479
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I can't recommend JetBlue at this time
And there it is. Another giant disappointment for a system bid.
25 total upgrades.
At this rate you can expect upgrade in about 15 years.
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25 total upgrades.
At this rate you can expect upgrade in about 15 years.
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06-07-2017 | 10:09 AM
#480
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Yet these same legacies are hiring more folks than those avenues can provide and will be for the foreseeable future. The flows and preferential interviews are recruitment tools to keep their regionals staffed. There are definitely non military folks getting hired at AA off the street and word is that Only 1/3 of the folks getting preferential interviews at DAL are getting a Job offer. The CPP folks at United Express carriers get snagged by the hogan all of the time.
Don't invent additional barriers to dissuade yourself from applying. If you meet the minimum requirments throw in an application and start working on ways to improve it as you get more serious about leaving.
Don't invent additional barriers to dissuade yourself from applying. If you meet the minimum requirments throw in an application and start working on ways to improve it as you get more serious about leaving.
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