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02-02-2017, 01:05 PM
#91
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Originally Posted by 727_Driver
if there was a sudden reduction of the %'s of pilots picking up VDA/ RSA's etc it would be held against the union, even if they had 0% to do with it. Just the was the act is written for status quo....
I do agree all pilots should be following published company procedures. Cleared to push or not cleared to push is pretty freaking simple in my personal opinion....
I do agree all pilots should be following published company procedures. Cleared to push or not cleared to push is pretty freaking simple in my personal opinion....
02-02-2017, 01:18 PM
#92
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Originally Posted by txbusdriver
This is complete utter nonsense. There is NO requirement to pick up open time. Not doing anything beyond your schedule is within reason. You sound like a management troll.
Sounds like you've never been through a bankruptcy or contract negotiation. The union getting in trouble because pilots stop picking up time or start taxiing slow really does happen. Status Quo is the name of the game in negotiations.
02-02-2017, 01:54 PM
#93
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Originally Posted by Gearswinger
Sounds like you've never been through a bankruptcy or contract negotiation. The union getting in trouble because pilots stop picking up time or start taxiing slow really does happen. Status Quo is the name of the game in negotiations.
02-02-2017, 05:18 PM
#94
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Originally Posted by OldFlyGuy
Yep. At the Big D some time ago. We were in court because statistically we weren't volunteering to fly as much voluntary overtime as usual. We were going down the tubes and lots of people had been flying their butts off to put cash in the bank, increase FAE, help out D.. whatever the reason. I stopped flying as much because I got freaking exhausted. Careful what you say and careful what you post. OFG
Well said.
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02-02-2017, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Gearswinger
Sounds like you've never been through a bankruptcy or contract negotiation. The union getting in trouble because pilots stop picking up time or start taxiing slow really does happen. Status Quo is the name of the game in negotiations.
02-02-2017, 07:32 PM
#96
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Originally Posted by OldFlyGuy
Yep. At the Big D some time ago. We were in court because statistically we weren't volunteering to fly as much voluntary overtime as usual. We were going down the tubes and lots of people had been flying their butts off to put cash in the bank, increase FAE, help out D.. whatever the reason. I stopped flying as much because I got freaking exhausted. Careful what you say and careful what you post. OFG
Upon remand, the district court shall issue appropriate injunctive relief directing ALPA to take further steps to end the pilots' no-overtime campaign. Further steps may include issuing directives as drafted by the court and threatening (or imposing) union sanctions for violations, as permitted by ALPA's constitution.25 If ALPA complies with the court's orders and the no-overtime campaign continues, Delta may return to the district court for injunctive relief against individual pilots, as discussed supra Part III.C.
REVERSED and REMANDED, with instructions.
I concur in the determination that under the law ALPA has an affirmative duty to exert every reasonable effort to prevent or stop the unilateral unlawful activity of its members and that it has not fulfilled that duty. Accordingly, I agree that this case should be remanded for the entry of an appropriate injunction requiring ALPA to take all reasonable steps to do so. However, any discussion of possible actions based on the possibility that ALPA cannot control its membership is premature.
I'm not recommending or advocating anything other than finding the facts behind what appears to be a ghost story.
02-08-2017, 10:33 AM
#97
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Originally Posted by txbusdriver
This is complete utter nonsense. There is NO requirement to pick up open time. Not doing anything beyond your schedule is within reason. You sound like a management troll.
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