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Old 08-30-2019, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by robi523 View Post
Best piece of advice I ever got... "Be careful about stepping on fingers climbing the ladder, they may very well be attached to the ass you are kissing on the way down"
An offshoot of this could be... "Be nice to your students or underlings, they may very well be your supervisor in a future job, or be in a position to recommend you."

I know of some cases where instructors flew as FO's for their former students. Then at my eventual career airline, some of chief pilots former underlings (I was one of the former underlings) recommended them for hire.
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Old 08-30-2019, 04:31 PM
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For my part, I haven't met many people with a "too good for this place" mentality in my relatively short time here at K4, and I wouldn't read too far into anyone's unhappy forum posts. There are certain... let us say "inconveniences" that are more common here than other places I've worked, and some personalities simply don't handle them as happily as others do. I would just point out that hiring environments like the one we are in right now are rare and fleeting in this business, and anyone who isn't happy where they are ought to be hustling as hard as they can for that dream job.

Like a lot of people I've met, I'm waiting to see what the next contract looks like before I decide whether to put myself in the lifer column. There does seem to be some consensus on the line on what shortcomings are expected to be addressed in this next cycle, and others that may be a longer fight. APC, of course, is not the venue for a drawn-out discussion of those matters. Suffice it to say that as happy as most of us are, there are improvements that should be made, and pointing them out in no way trivializes the hard work that went into making K4 the place it is now.
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Old 08-30-2019, 05:12 PM
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For my part, I haven't met many people with a "too good for this place" mentality in my relatively short time here at K4, and I wouldn't read too far into anyone's unhappy forum posts. There are certain... let us say "inconveniences" that are more common here than other places I've worked, and some personalities simply don't handle them as happily as others do. I would just point out that hiring environments like the one we are in right now are rare and fleeting in this business, and anyone who isn't happy where they are ought to be hustling as hard as they can for that dream job.

Like a lot of people I've met, I'm waiting to see what the next contract looks like before I decide whether to put myself in the lifer column. There does seem to be some consensus on the line on what shortcomings are expected to be addressed in this next cycle, and others that may be a longer fight. APC, of course, is not the venue for a drawn-out discussion of those matters. Suffice it to say that as happy as most of us are, there are improvements that should be made, and pointing them out in no way trivializes the hard work that went into making K4 the place it is now.
And...with the leadership reorganization that was announced today.......things are really looking good for us.
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Old 08-30-2019, 05:24 PM
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For my part, I haven't met many people with a "too good for this place" mentality in my relatively short time here at K4, and I wouldn't read too far into anyone's unhappy forum posts.
My comments/observations are unfortunately not based on his forum post but rather in person interactions.

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anyone who isn't happy where they are ought to be hustling as hard as they can for that dream job.
Completely agree, but you can do that without bashing where you are at or more importantly.... the people who ARE happy there.

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there are improvements that should be made, and pointing them out in no way trivializes the hard work that went into making K4 the place it is now.
His comments were not pointing out improvements that need to be made, rather they were ridiculing someone for being proud that their company reaches out proactively to assist in times of usual circumstances. Further, he likened being happy at K4 to being a prisoner who has been befriended by his capture. There was nothing productive about his statement with regard to improvements.

I reposted below in case you missed what he wrote:

Originally Posted by FRNTOFWAVE View Post
HaHaHa, are you serious? There is a reason why every other major and big box hauler are laughing at us. Stockholm syndrome permeates our airline.
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Old 08-31-2019, 01:24 AM
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My comments/observations are unfortunately not based on his forum post but rather in person interactions.



Completely agree, but you can do that without bashing where you are at or more importantly.... the people who ARE happy there.



His comments were not pointing out improvements that need to be made, rather they were ridiculing someone for being proud that their company reaches out proactively to assist in times of usual circumstances. Further, he likened being happy at K4 to being a prisoner who has been befriended by his capture. There was nothing productive about his statement with regard to improvements.

I reposted below in case you missed what he wrote:
Hah, I must come across as such a fan boy that it triggers people.
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Old 08-31-2019, 10:20 AM
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Hah, I must come across as such a fan boy that it triggers people.
Yeah. If you don't want that double-breasted jacket and a hat super glued to your head the only logical conclusion is you have Stockholm Syndrome.

Some of us want more than Jackson, Mississippi turns and a white picket fence in ATL.
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Old 08-31-2019, 10:52 AM
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......meanwhile, in the cheap seats:

Got the call ! Going to interview in a couple of weeks.
I have completed a comprehensive review of this thread, but still request any helpful tips/insights any are willing to impart to a Whale hunting wannabe
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Old 08-31-2019, 10:52 AM
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Yeah. If you don't want that double-breasted jacket and a hat super glued to your head the only logical conclusion is you have Stockholm Syndrome.
FRNTOFWAVE is probably in the group that feels they can only get the respect they believe they deserve by wearing an official looking hat.
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Old 08-31-2019, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyborgmudhen View Post
......meanwhile, in the cheap seats:

Got the call ! Going to interview in a couple of weeks.
I have completed a comprehensive review of this thread, but still request any helpful tips/insights any are willing to impart to a Whale hunting wannabe
There is a chance that your whale hunt will come up empty. You do have a chance if hired soon of bagging a 777 or 767.
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Old 08-31-2019, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Cyborgmudhen View Post
......meanwhile, in the cheap seats:

Got the call ! Going to interview in a couple of weeks.
I have completed a comprehensive review of this thread, but still request any helpful tips/insights any are willing to impart to a Whale hunting wannabe
Get an internal recommendation from a pilot/employee on property already. They just changed how internal recommendations are handled, so go for that!
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