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11-05-2019, 06:41 PM
#2311
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2019
Posts: 82
Originally Posted by Lockheed
you've been on apc like a week
maybe you should do some homework and report back
maybe you should do some homework and report back
11-05-2019, 07:02 PM
#2314
Banned
Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 2,275
I don't see an issue with what Maxjet said.
First of all, it you are sick, everyone wants you to use your sick time.
Second of all, sounds like he wants to sell it back to the company when he retires, which logically speaking would indicate that he isn't going to use it for nefarious reasons.
And, we have personal days that can be used, deducted from your vacation hours.
First of all, it you are sick, everyone wants you to use your sick time.
Second of all, sounds like he wants to sell it back to the company when he retires, which logically speaking would indicate that he isn't going to use it for nefarious reasons.
And, we have personal days that can be used, deducted from your vacation hours.
11-05-2019, 07:08 PM
#2315
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2019
Posts: 82
Originally Posted by No Land 3
I don't see an issue with what Maxjet said.
First of all, it you are sick, everyone wants you to use your sick time.
Second of all, sounds like he wants to sell it back to the company when he retires, which logically speaking would indicate that he isn't going to use it for nefarious reasons.
And, we have personal days that can be used, deducted from your vacation hours.
First of all, it you are sick, everyone wants you to use your sick time.
Second of all, sounds like he wants to sell it back to the company when he retires, which logically speaking would indicate that he isn't going to use it for nefarious reasons.
And, we have personal days that can be used, deducted from your vacation hours.
11-05-2019, 07:15 PM
#2316
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2017
Position: Heavy
Posts: 187
Originally Posted by jhugz
We also have a bunch of children on the fleet (most pretty senior) that when they don’t get their own way for their schedule they bang out sick or fatigue and screw the junior guys below them.
11-05-2019, 07:22 PM
#2317
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2017
Position: Heavy
Posts: 187
[QUOTE=maxjet;2918447]
What about when it’s the junior guys “banging out”? Also, I’d be very interested to hear the D.O.s reaction to your sick time policy. Using sick days to go watch the a ball game sounds like a good way to get called up to YIP. Just my thoughts, not trying to start a ****ing match with you.
Originally Posted by jhugz
We also have a bunch of children on the fleet (most pretty senior) that when they don’t get their own way for their schedule they bang out sick or fatigue and screw the junior guys below them.[/QUOTE
Please explain to me what is wrong with them doing that. Union negotiated sick time. They decide they don’t want to fly and the use sick time. That is why there are reserves and junior guys. When you have enough seniority and you have an important family or other event to attend, and you don’t “bang out sick” I will be disappointed in you. In my case I am saving my sick time as the buy half of it when I retire next year.
Please explain to me what is wrong with them doing that. Union negotiated sick time. They decide they don’t want to fly and the use sick time. That is why there are reserves and junior guys. When you have enough seniority and you have an important family or other event to attend, and you don’t “bang out sick” I will be disappointed in you. In my case I am saving my sick time as the buy half of it when I retire next year.
11-05-2019, 09:51 PM
#2318
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 299
Originally Posted by Colt45
What about when it’s the junior guys “banging out”? Also, I’d be very interested to hear the D.O.s reaction to your sick time policy. Using sick days to go watch the a ball game sounds like a good way to get called up to YIP. Just my thoughts, not trying to start a ****ing match with you.
11-05-2019, 11:54 PM
#2319
Banned
Joined APC: Mar 2019
Posts: 229
Just came back from a trip where one FO openly proclaimed that he wasn’t doing the damn carryover days and was intending to call in sick. Sure enough he did. Sat at breakfast with the captain who agreed to stay out for an extra few days away from his wife and kids in exchange for overtime. Schedule got reshuffled because of the FO and he now had to deadhead home instead for a fraction of the pay. Never mind the implications for the company.
Have some integrity. Call in sick when you or someone who depends on you need it otherwise go sell cosmetics at the mall or flip burgers.
Have some integrity. Call in sick when you or someone who depends on you need it otherwise go sell cosmetics at the mall or flip burgers.
11-06-2019, 12:48 AM
#2320
VHR-very happily retired
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: Retired
Posts: 1,409
Originally Posted by jhugz
You’re seriously championing sick leave abuse and fatigue calls to manipulate your schedule? Wow...
I suggest you give section 7 of the CBA a good read.
I suggest you give section 7 of the CBA a good read.
When I was hired the head of scheduling told us that “sick time was capped and then you lose it. Hint, hint.” We all self certify to fly. Your definition of sick is not someone else’s.
BTW Please invite me to the first meeting(it will be a first) where a pilot is brought in for sick time abuse because they went to their kids ball game. Company has a right, and has used it, to require a pilot, at company expense, to be examined by a doctor before returning to work. The company under NO CIRCUMSTANCES CAN COMPLY A PILOT TO REVEAL THE NATURE OF THEIR SICK CALL. You are protected by HIPA.
Y’all need to stop stating your opinions as fact regarding sick time use. BTW I have heard nothing from my acquaintances about sick time abuse. What I am reading is that some pilots are whining because they don’t like their schedule. It isn’t what they thought is was going to be? In my entire time at K4 I have never once flown my line. You work at will for the company for the time you are contracted to work. End of story.
Last edited by maxjet; 11-06-2019 at 01:05 AM.
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