Kalitta Air now accepting FO applications
#3311
On Reserve
Joined APC: Aug 2016
Posts: 13
I've read on earlier posts some of the new Duty Periods etc... What are the rest rules under the new contract? How much time can you expect typically at each layover to reset during the 16 day rotation? Anyone willing to post their line for Sep?
#3312
Posting a line is pointless because it will change. We do enough Ad Hoc flying that everyone will fly whatever needs to be flown.
#3314
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: 744 CA
Posts: 4,772
Just to be clear....Hours of Service... of which you speak.. under the new contract does not become implemented until 20 DEC per agreement in the CBA. Hours of service in the new contract basic and standard crews is less than under the old contract and the double crew duty day was arbitrated and is awaiting the decision of the arbitrator.
#3316
Well, in certain aspects absolutely it is. But in others (applicable to my family and personal life) Spirit would be hugely beneficial and a better fit. Either way, I'm open to what opportunities are available and taking advantage to apply at those of which I meet the minimums. Thanks!
#3317
Banned
Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 2,275
Well, in certain aspects absolutely it is. But in others (applicable to my family and personal life) Spirit would be hugely beneficial and a better fit. Either way, I'm open to what opportunities are available and taking advantage to apply at those of which I meet the minimums. Thanks!
#3318
Please don't apply if you are looking at just the money and the schedule. That seems to be a common question on here There are some negatives to flying for Kalitta.
1) Your month of work is not really in your control. (There is a push to try to keep people on their lines) If a daily changing schedule bothers you, please do not apply. We have a saying here, that after looking at your schedule, you tell a love one where to meet you as you travel the world, it will be the one place you will not be at the appointed time.
2) If you cannot handle sleeping at odd hours or sleeping on an airplane. You will suffer physically.
3) If it bothers you to go to airports that you have never heard of in countries you did not really know existed, under an ATC system that does not control your altitude and provide vectors the entire way to the ground, or if micro managing controllers with foreign accents, (Delhi).
4) If it bothers you to fly war munitions and supplies around. (Actually had an FO complain about supporting a war)
5) If you are addicted to your cell phone and have to constantly be taking selfies and tracking your next flight on Facebook while taxiing around in the airplane.
6) Are bothered by an operation that is experiencing growing pains as it tries to double. This results in an even more inefficient operation than in the past. (which tends to benefit the pilots pay wise). You are NEVER going to come here and tell Mr. Kalitta how to run his airline. Embrace the chaos and treat every flight as though it is the first time the airline has done this flight, and you will be forever happy here. Get frustrated with what, at your level, you perceive to be wrong, but legal, and you will drive yourself crazy.
The above are just some of the complaints from our newer pilots and things that I have observed.
Apply if you,
1) Want to fly well maintained aircraft operated by very good crewmembers, who will mentor you and have your back when needed.
2) Fly to places in the world you didn't even know existed.
3) Want to never again ever have to worry about commuting to work and get paid both salary and perdiem to fly to and from work, while collecting the airline and hotel points most of the time.
4) Want top notch medical at low prices.
5) In a few years once the growth stops and the company catches up to itself, you will go back to min guarantee and slightly above months. This will result in you flying maybe 8 days out of 16 instead of 12 to 13 now. Those extra days will be spent on occasion in places such as Hong Kong, Paris, Honolulu, Leipzig, Amsterdam.
We need pilots, but please know what you are getting yourself into. Nothing worse than having to listen to a pilot whine about the things listed above.
1) Your month of work is not really in your control. (There is a push to try to keep people on their lines) If a daily changing schedule bothers you, please do not apply. We have a saying here, that after looking at your schedule, you tell a love one where to meet you as you travel the world, it will be the one place you will not be at the appointed time.
2) If you cannot handle sleeping at odd hours or sleeping on an airplane. You will suffer physically.
3) If it bothers you to go to airports that you have never heard of in countries you did not really know existed, under an ATC system that does not control your altitude and provide vectors the entire way to the ground, or if micro managing controllers with foreign accents, (Delhi).
4) If it bothers you to fly war munitions and supplies around. (Actually had an FO complain about supporting a war)
5) If you are addicted to your cell phone and have to constantly be taking selfies and tracking your next flight on Facebook while taxiing around in the airplane.
6) Are bothered by an operation that is experiencing growing pains as it tries to double. This results in an even more inefficient operation than in the past. (which tends to benefit the pilots pay wise). You are NEVER going to come here and tell Mr. Kalitta how to run his airline. Embrace the chaos and treat every flight as though it is the first time the airline has done this flight, and you will be forever happy here. Get frustrated with what, at your level, you perceive to be wrong, but legal, and you will drive yourself crazy.
The above are just some of the complaints from our newer pilots and things that I have observed.
Apply if you,
1) Want to fly well maintained aircraft operated by very good crewmembers, who will mentor you and have your back when needed.
2) Fly to places in the world you didn't even know existed.
3) Want to never again ever have to worry about commuting to work and get paid both salary and perdiem to fly to and from work, while collecting the airline and hotel points most of the time.
4) Want top notch medical at low prices.
5) In a few years once the growth stops and the company catches up to itself, you will go back to min guarantee and slightly above months. This will result in you flying maybe 8 days out of 16 instead of 12 to 13 now. Those extra days will be spent on occasion in places such as Hong Kong, Paris, Honolulu, Leipzig, Amsterdam.
We need pilots, but please know what you are getting yourself into. Nothing worse than having to listen to a pilot whine about the things listed above.
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