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Old 09-20-2009, 11:45 PM
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Shame on u, giving up on the dream. I have an A&P,ATP,CFII and MEI, worked as a lead mech for a legacy, but gave it all up to fly (a piston not a jet) took a 72% pay cut lost a wife. But will never give up on the dream....where is my drink.
Next time you are wherever I'm at KIGONYE- I'll buy you a dang ol' drink, and we'll look for some new wives together! I reckon we could start in some of my favorite Southeast U.S. gentlemen's clubs. I got pre-approved for a new credit card.
Sicerely, K.T. (Not as many ratings/certificates/responsibilities as you've got, but similar experience, with I.A. privileges ta' boot)
Note- I'm not sure where I'll be at anytime soon. Which is kinda lame. Maybe I'll just go back to hibernating.
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Old 09-21-2009, 06:47 AM
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I have been trying to get out of the piloting life and go back to A and P work - having a difficult time as the pilot experience is overshadowing any and all aircraft maintenance work I have done. Seems all I am getting is "we won't hire a pilot" or "I am afraid you will leave after a short time to go back to flying". I lost my job as a pilot - company went out of business - and although I have years of flying and mechanic experience - none of it seems to count enough to actually get a job that pays sufficiently to afford a rental house. I would go the elevator repairman route - at least you get to go - up and down and get paid for it ! I did work as a pilot/mechanic for one company years ago - seems that is a thing of the past ?
If you are trying to find work as a pilot then don't tell them that you are also a mechanic because you will end up changing oil instead. And, if you are trying to find work as an A&P then don't tell them that you are a pilot because they will not hire you out of fear that you will leave once you find another flying job.

As far as I know there is nothing wrong with leaving information out of a resume. People embellish their work history all the time. Sometimes it is important to leave stuff off as well.

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Old 09-21-2009, 09:18 AM
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If you are trying to find work as a pilot then don't tell them that you are also a mechanic because you will end up changing oil instead. And, if you are trying to find work as an A&P then don't tell them that you are a pilot because they will not hire you out of fear that you will leave once you find another flying job.

As far as I know there is nothing wrong with leaving information out of a resume. People embellish their work history all the time. Sometimes it is important to leave stuff off as well.

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Everybody's gotta do what they've gotta do, but based on my personal experience in AK, I don't know if I agree with this Sky. I think what I'd say is that if you are hired as a Pilot/Mechanic you might end up flying AND changing the oil. Depends on the employer for sure, and their staffing situation, but I think having the A+P is a definate plus for Alaska pilot job prospects. Especially in the winter as many outfits shrink their pilot rolls and need mechanics to do or help with their aircraft's annual inspections.
My last seasonal job this summer was wrenching, not flying. The DOM there made it a point to ask me if I was committed to doing a summer season in the hangar, and not moaning and groaning about not flying. Did what I had to do, and tried to stay somewhat in the flying currency by flying my Cub when I could afford the avgas.
Anyway, good luck out there job seekers.
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Old 09-21-2009, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh View Post
If you are trying to find work as a pilot then don't tell them that you are also a mechanic because you will end up changing oil instead. And, if you are trying to find work as an A&P then don't tell them that you are a pilot because they will not hire you out of fear that you will leave once you find another flying job.

As far as I know there is nothing wrong with leaving information out of a resume. People embellish their work history all the time. Sometimes it is important to leave stuff off as well.

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HAHA true that if i had a dollar for every time i heard "Yeah well get ya some flying"
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Old 09-21-2009, 10:24 PM
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Everybody's gotta do what they've gotta do, but based on my personal experience in AK, I don't know if I agree with this Sky. I think what I'd say is that if you are hired as a Pilot/Mechanic you might end up flying AND changing the oil. Depends on the employer for sure, and their staffing situation, but I think having the A+P is a definate plus for Alaska pilot job prospects. Especially in the winter as many outfits shrink their pilot rolls and need mechanics to do or help with their aircraft's annual inspections.
My last seasonal job this summer was wrenching, not flying. The DOM there made it a point to ask me if I was committed to doing a summer season in the hangar, and not moaning and groaning about not flying. Did what I had to do, and tried to stay somewhat in the flying currency by flying my Cub when I could afford the avgas.
Anyway, good luck out there job seekers.
All I am really trying to say is to try and match your resume to the expectations of the employer. Sometimes it means leaving stuff out.

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Old 09-21-2009, 10:36 PM
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Roger that Sky!
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Old 09-22-2009, 02:52 AM
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All I am really trying to say is to try and match your resume to the expectations of the employer. Sometimes it means leaving stuff out.

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My A&P has gotten me 2 jobs in the past year, one at Dynamic Aviation, which i quit 6 months later cause you wrench 70% of the time and the wrenching you do is pathetic and i couldn't stand the people there. I have 4 years experience on 1900's, 99's, and king airs now im overseas on a 1900/B200 job.

Just have to Find someone that appreciates the experience you have, having a A&P is worthless if you have no experience, I thought id have better luck in Alaska with a few 1900 operators up there.

I will be glad when i just put my A&P on my resume to kind of make up for my lack of a 4 year degree, and not be expected to turn a wrench.
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Old 09-22-2009, 07:23 AM
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As long as they pay by the license.
If they want and pilot AND a mechanic, then they pay for BOTH the pilot AND mechanic.

I didn't get my A+P just to give it away.
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Old 10-06-2009, 04:52 PM
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Something to consider is switching careers to automotive servicing.
Better pay, most work during daytime hours and have weekends offs.
Can work in any town, big or small.

Still hard work.
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Old 10-15-2009, 09:04 PM
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Very interesting article. I had a job offer at Dynamic Aviation and turned it town due to the 75% wrenching and 25% flying. they made it sounds like you barely keep currency. I am a CFI/A&P and live in minnesota. there is nothing out there for flying. I JUST moved back from Hawaii 2 days ago to take a job at skydive kauai and quit 1.5 weeks after arriving because the logbooks were missing, stuff was completely unairworthy and broken and corroded (huge list), owner did not want to do anything with it) and now the feds have an investigation over it because I called them with my concerns, even they were floored at my descriptions. Thank God I reviewed the maint. side before I flew it. the owner was incredibly cheap and did many illegal things, would not work with what was the legal way and peoples lives are at risk because of this cheapness.
One day he will be at the end of a hospital bed saying...If i had only.....

Anyways, I have been thinking about becoming a firefighter or doing something until the pilot market picks up and renting an aircraft for hours until I meet requirements. like you said 4440, Mx offers little to no money anymore. it would be great to find a good place to work with good pay, but it seems like "paying your dues for now" is almost impractical because its worse than its ever been. how can we afford this? How frustrating is this.... so P.O.'ed, now I am unemployed because some jerk wanted to cut so many corners and all we are doing is the right thing. Dang this makes me mad. there is hardly anything out there. Tired of moving and getting burned.

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