How to make the decision: time to hang it up
03-28-2011 | 10:40 AM
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"Who is the worst person that you negotiate for? Yourself.." Herb Coen
"Care, but not that much. The single best way to negotiate a deal is to prove to the other side that it really does not mean all that much to you".
All from Herb Coen.
These are reasons why we get the jobs we hate and often struggle with the dream when it is right in front of us. I could go on to explain why a pilots career is one of a poor negotiation position while the mailman has the upper hand. We love our jobs and have a lot invested into it while the mailman does not.
Our choices are limited while the mailman could work virtually anywhere.
Skyhigh
"Care, but not that much. The single best way to negotiate a deal is to prove to the other side that it really does not mean all that much to you".
All from Herb Coen.
These are reasons why we get the jobs we hate and often struggle with the dream when it is right in front of us. I could go on to explain why a pilots career is one of a poor negotiation position while the mailman has the upper hand. We love our jobs and have a lot invested into it while the mailman does not.
Our choices are limited while the mailman could work virtually anywhere.
Skyhigh
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03-28-2011 | 11:56 AM
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I don't know how many interviews you have been on but I have had plenty. Everyone who goes in puts on their best face. Usually it is the best lier that gets the job. I have seen plenty of applicants savagely bad mouth the company that they were in the waiting room to interview with and walk out with an offer.
I have gotten every job I have ever wanted... usually 6 months after I really do not want it anymore.
I can see from the above though why you are so bitter towards an aviation career. It seems that maybe you never really knew (or know) what you wanted; or the expectation were just terribly unrealistic. But others more knowledgable than I have made this observation before.
USMCFLYR
03-28-2011 | 01:28 PM
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Word is Alaska will be hiring late fall or next spring... there ya go...
Hum... UPS doesn't have a crew base within three hours of you... and would require a commute.. so which is it.....only "certain" jobs you are willing to commute to? AND only pays about 3200 or so per month the first year.... (granted the pay spikes in year 2) ...just saying. Good luck with finding that ideal job Sky, all the best.
Hum... UPS doesn't have a crew base within three hours of you... and would require a commute.. so which is it.....only "certain" jobs you are willing to commute to? AND only pays about 3200 or so per month the first year.... (granted the pay spikes in year 2) ...just saying. Good luck with finding that ideal job Sky, all the best.
03-28-2011 | 02:57 PM
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Thanks Herc !!
Word is Alaska will be hiring late fall or next spring... there ya go...
Hum... UPS doesn't have a crew base within three hours of you... and would require a commute.. so which is it.....only "certain" jobs you are willing to commute to? AND only pays about 3200 or so per month the first year.... (granted the pay spikes in year 2) ...just saying. Good luck with finding that ideal job Sky, all the best.
Hum... UPS doesn't have a crew base within three hours of you... and would require a commute.. so which is it.....only "certain" jobs you are willing to commute to? AND only pays about 3200 or so per month the first year.... (granted the pay spikes in year 2) ...just saying. Good luck with finding that ideal job Sky, all the best.
A man has got to dream. And if you ever get on with Alaska Airlines I sure hope you will give me a call.
Thanks !
Skyhigh
03-28-2011 | 03:02 PM
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I've had quite a few interviews in my time of all kinds AND have been involved in interviewing people for all types of jobs, boards, selections, etc.... and MY experience is VERY different from yours. I guess I'll just chalk this up to another Sky'ism
Seems like you are still searching for that job. Is it right around the corner? Doubt it.
I can see from the above though why you are so bitter towards an aviation career. It seems that maybe you never really knew (or know) what you wanted; or the expectation were just terribly unrealistic. But others more knowledgable than I have made this observation before.
USMCFLYR
Seems like you are still searching for that job. Is it right around the corner? Doubt it.
I can see from the above though why you are so bitter towards an aviation career. It seems that maybe you never really knew (or know) what you wanted; or the expectation were just terribly unrealistic. But others more knowledgable than I have made this observation before.
USMCFLYR
You know the reality is that I already have a good job. It is not all that glamorous or fun but it pays the bills and provides for a good life. As things get better it becomes more difficult to think of starting over at even a dream job. I still hold out hope because you never know. Every year people I know are moving into positions of power. One day I could be a fourth quarter walk on.
However as you pointed out.... probably not.
Cordially;
Skyhigh
03-28-2011 | 03:27 PM
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03-28-2011 | 08:36 PM
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From Wilkipedia:
The United States Postal Service (USPS) is an independent agency of the United States government, established in 1971 as an "independent establishment of the executive branch", responsible for providing postal service in the United States. It is one of the few government agencies explicitly authorized by the United States Constitution.
Skyhigh
03-29-2011 | 01:03 AM
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nothing in the constitution says how small they can shrink to however. they absolutely NEED to cut out saturday delivery. Oh... and they are mandated also to be self sufficient thats not working out so well is it.... nearly 9 billion in debt last year ... and an underfunded pension... sounds like other WELL run business's.....
03-29-2011 | 06:24 AM
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If the Post Office was a business, of course, it would probably fail, be bought out, merged, etc.
Which is Sky's point. It can be run as poorly as any other business, but it's not going to "fail". Somebody has to deliver the mail, provide for the common defense, etc.
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