UAL Int'l JS questions
03-20-2017, 08:38 AM
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UAL Int'l JS questions
I am a VX pilot. The threads I can find on this are a few years old.
What's the proper way to get listed as an OMC/jumpseater for an international flight? Go to the ticket counter? I know I need to get listed early for customs purposes, is 2 hours enough?
(Yes I know I can't ride in the flight deck).
We have id90 access and if we take UAL, I will get a zed for my wife... but I don't think I can make a listing for myself unless I want to pay the zed fare.
For the return flight, are there any tricks when it comes to the stations so they know how to deal with the jumpseater?
Finally, should there be seats open, is there any realistic shot at a business seat for either of us?
What's the proper way to get listed as an OMC/jumpseater for an international flight? Go to the ticket counter? I know I need to get listed early for customs purposes, is 2 hours enough?
(Yes I know I can't ride in the flight deck).
We have id90 access and if we take UAL, I will get a zed for my wife... but I don't think I can make a listing for myself unless I want to pay the zed fare.
For the return flight, are there any tricks when it comes to the stations so they know how to deal with the jumpseater?
Finally, should there be seats open, is there any realistic shot at a business seat for either of us?
03-20-2017, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by greaser
I am a VX pilot. The threads I can find on this are a few years old.
What's the proper way to get listed as an OMC/jumpseater for an international flight? Go to the ticket counter? I know I need to get listed early for customs purposes, is 2 hours enough?
(Yes I know I can't ride in the flight deck).
We have id90 access and if we take UAL, I will get a zed for my wife... but I don't think I can make a listing for myself unless I want to pay the zed fare.
For the return flight, are there any tricks when it comes to the stations so they know how to deal with the jumpseater?
Finally, should there be seats open, is there any realistic shot at a business seat for either of us?
What's the proper way to get listed as an OMC/jumpseater for an international flight? Go to the ticket counter? I know I need to get listed early for customs purposes, is 2 hours enough?
(Yes I know I can't ride in the flight deck).
We have id90 access and if we take UAL, I will get a zed for my wife... but I don't think I can make a listing for myself unless I want to pay the zed fare.
For the return flight, are there any tricks when it comes to the stations so they know how to deal with the jumpseater?
Finally, should there be seats open, is there any realistic shot at a business seat for either of us?
As for return stations, it's hit or miss. If that station gets a lot of jumpseating traffic, they will usually know how to list you. You have to list at the checkin counter. I've never had a problem, sometimes it takes a little longer for them to figure it out. Worst case scenario if they deny you listing, you can buy a ZED.
United is usually the best as far as getting open seats up front, but again it's always upto the crew.
03-20-2017, 01:35 PM
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^^^Good Advice Above... especially the part on international stations... you will have to go to a ticket counter and sometimes be required to pay a tax there before they give you a pass to get through security.
Once in the gate area... make sure you get to the podium and tell them you want to JS when the CSR arrives at the podium (usually 1:45-1:30 out)... once you get the OMC card wait for the pilots to arrive which will be around the 55 minute prior mark... easier to catch them at the gate area then getting down the jet bridge during boarding process. Once you get on the airplane make sure you stop by and see the Purser/FM and introduce yourself (if you don't catch the pilots at the podium then you have to stop in cockpit)... hopefully the Captain talked to him/her by then and tried to grease the skids on a better seat. You will be assigned a seat in Coach... thats how the computer works out assignments... after that its up to the Captain/Purser to decide. As an offline pilot you cannot sit in the cockpit...
Once in the gate area... make sure you get to the podium and tell them you want to JS when the CSR arrives at the podium (usually 1:45-1:30 out)... once you get the OMC card wait for the pilots to arrive which will be around the 55 minute prior mark... easier to catch them at the gate area then getting down the jet bridge during boarding process. Once you get on the airplane make sure you stop by and see the Purser/FM and introduce yourself (if you don't catch the pilots at the podium then you have to stop in cockpit)... hopefully the Captain talked to him/her by then and tried to grease the skids on a better seat. You will be assigned a seat in Coach... thats how the computer works out assignments... after that its up to the Captain/Purser to decide. As an offline pilot you cannot sit in the cockpit...
03-20-2017, 01:50 PM
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Straight from the ALPA website. You don't have to log in to the website. Jumpseat information for all ALPA (and some non-ALPA) carriers is available from a dropdown menu on the homepage.
If anybody does have a problem getting listed at either a domestic or international station, please contact your jumpseat coordinator so that they can contact the UALMEC Jumpseat Committee to get it fixed. It won't necessarily be timely, but maybe it will be taken care of for the next pilot.
If anybody does have a problem getting listed at either a domestic or international station, please contact your jumpseat coordinator so that they can contact the UALMEC Jumpseat Committee to get it fixed. It won't necessarily be timely, but maybe it will be taken care of for the next pilot.
United
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United Airlines offers Observer Member of the Crew (OMC) jumpseating to eligible pilots and dispatchers of carriers that maintain reciprocal jumpseat agreements with United Airlines. Pilots and dispatchers contracted to operate within the United Express route system are granted a ‘K’ boarding priority while OAL/offline pilots are granted an ‘L’ boarding priority. Boarding will be first come first serve within the respective boarding category. UA now permits unlimited jumpseating on all domestic and international flights.
DOMESTIC: Pre-listing for OMC through UA’s reservation system is not required. OMC requests are processed by the agent at the departing gate (Domestic includes AK, HI and all U.S. Territories.) Per TSA and FAA requirements, offline pilots will initially be processed for a cabin seat. If the cabin seating is filled, the pilot will be processed for the flight deck jumpseat. Passports are no longer required for CASS verification.
INTERNATIONAL: Pre-listing for OMC through UA’s reservation system is not required. For US outbound flights, the check in process is conducted at the departure gate. For international inbound flights to the US, check in must be completed at the international station ticket counter. The pilot must pay all applicable departure fees and taxes for the specific flight. All offline international jumpseat travel is restricted to Cabin Seating only. In the event that UA imposes temporary international NRSA travel embargos, cabin seat jumpseats are not bound by these restrictions.
Jumpseaters seated in the cabin are not permitted to consume alcohol. Uniform or business casual attire is required. When boarding begins, please proceed to the cockpit and introduce yourself to the Captain, regardless of seat assignment. Pilots will be required to present a valid company ID, airmen and current medical certificates. The jumpseat access is the sole discretion of the Captain.
CASS Carrier
United Airlines offers Observer Member of the Crew (OMC) jumpseating to eligible pilots and dispatchers of carriers that maintain reciprocal jumpseat agreements with United Airlines. Pilots and dispatchers contracted to operate within the United Express route system are granted a ‘K’ boarding priority while OAL/offline pilots are granted an ‘L’ boarding priority. Boarding will be first come first serve within the respective boarding category. UA now permits unlimited jumpseating on all domestic and international flights.
DOMESTIC: Pre-listing for OMC through UA’s reservation system is not required. OMC requests are processed by the agent at the departing gate (Domestic includes AK, HI and all U.S. Territories.) Per TSA and FAA requirements, offline pilots will initially be processed for a cabin seat. If the cabin seating is filled, the pilot will be processed for the flight deck jumpseat. Passports are no longer required for CASS verification.
INTERNATIONAL: Pre-listing for OMC through UA’s reservation system is not required. For US outbound flights, the check in process is conducted at the departure gate. For international inbound flights to the US, check in must be completed at the international station ticket counter. The pilot must pay all applicable departure fees and taxes for the specific flight. All offline international jumpseat travel is restricted to Cabin Seating only. In the event that UA imposes temporary international NRSA travel embargos, cabin seat jumpseats are not bound by these restrictions.
Jumpseaters seated in the cabin are not permitted to consume alcohol. Uniform or business casual attire is required. When boarding begins, please proceed to the cockpit and introduce yourself to the Captain, regardless of seat assignment. Pilots will be required to present a valid company ID, airmen and current medical certificates. The jumpseat access is the sole discretion of the Captain.
03-20-2017, 04:04 PM
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It's been a while since I've jumped on UAL international but I used to jump frequently on them a few years ago. After the UAL/CAL mashup, they supposedly adopted some part of CAL's computer system (at least that's what was told to me). The ticket agents would tell you that they can't list you at the airport. They would say you have to list online. A couple times I could get them to list me but it was like getting an act of congress and a supervisor to get it done with a warning about having to list online next time. Other times I just went to DAL. All this happened at an international location. I don't remember jumpseating on them outbound at the time. Eventually I figured out what they wanted. They had created a way to list for the jumpseat on the ID90 website. You had to use the "commuting" option in the purpose of travel.
One thing about being at an international station, get there early to check in. At the locations I was at, they would keep all standby customers out at the ticket counter. They would tell you to come back at a given time (approx. 1 hour from departure). Then a few minutes after that show time, they start calling names and issuing tickets until they have cleared the standby list. Sometimes it gives you just enough time to hustle thru customs/immigration/security and to the gate. Not much time for duty-free shopping or eating. So bring a phone charger or something to do for the hour or so you're going to sit around by the ticket counter waiting for the show time.
One thing about being at an international station, get there early to check in. At the locations I was at, they would keep all standby customers out at the ticket counter. They would tell you to come back at a given time (approx. 1 hour from departure). Then a few minutes after that show time, they start calling names and issuing tickets until they have cleared the standby list. Sometimes it gives you just enough time to hustle thru customs/immigration/security and to the gate. Not much time for duty-free shopping or eating. So bring a phone charger or something to do for the hour or so you're going to sit around by the ticket counter waiting for the show time.
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