Dropping ATP requirements passes comittee
#121
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It entitles you to go straight to a major like the vast majority of your peers. If you choose to take a RJ job knowing full well that it is both a subcontractor job and vastly lower paying, that is your problem.
#122
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No. Once again as stated above at a regional your flying as a contractor in a 50-75 seat airplane. With your experiance you can get hired at many different places that pay the money your experience deserves. So why are you at a regional? Regionals are made as an experiance getter for new pilots. I know that some at regionals have much more experiance but as a whole they are a stepping stone. As I stated above the revune on an RJ is much different than an Airbus. The bigger the airplane the more revenue the more money the pilot makes. This is the same at mainline Delta. The 717 doesent pay the same money as the 350.
#124
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No. Once again as stated above at a regional your flying as a contractor in a 50-75 seat airplane. With your experiance you can get hired at many different places that pay the money your experience deserves. So why are you at a regional? Regionals are made as an experiance getter for new pilots. I know that some at regionals have much more experiance but as a whole they are a stepping stone. As I stated above the revune on an RJ is much different than an Airbus. The bigger the airplane the more revenue the more money the pilot makes. This is the same at mainline Delta. The 717 doesent pay the same money as the 350.
And here's an airplane size shocker: a UPS 757 pilot gets paid the same as their 747 pilot.
#125
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You all who keep measuring your experience as if it’s some sort of manhood test are missing the point. Over my years the type of pilots the majors are looking for has changed from literally no-time to requiring “command” experience. At one time I heard Delta was mostly interested in Navy grads while UAL changed their ways and hire 1200 hour single seat fighter dudes.
The point is some one else in charge of the standards and they keep moving them, kind of a ‘Catch 22’ thing.
I do feel for the writer I quoted, because I’ll bet the RJ outfit has been the only one who has offered him a job so far.
Just remember this if and when you get hired by a major no one will really care if you flew Airforce One or came from a CFI job, because you met the standards of the day.
Look at a B737 (or any other airplane) from the outside, it’s always the same pilot flying it.
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#127
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Many Air Force guys spent their last 5-6 years flying a desk in a basement of some staff job somewhere, including a 365 day remote tour to that garden spot we call the Middle East. Or they retired from the AF during the middle of the 5 year hiring hiatus, so they have no recency of experience. Mainlines won't touch these guys, but the Regional's increasingly will. I have a bud out of the jet over 10 years, over 3,000 TT in heavies, retired AF and did the 9-5 corporate gig for a decade, but is now back flying an RJ and should be competitive for a legacy after he gets enough 121 time.
Lots of different factors at play for some of the military guys regarding their timelines and recency of flying time.
Lots of different factors at play for some of the military guys regarding their timelines and recency of flying time.
#129
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Ok, I give up pay the RJ driver who just came out of flight school the same as the 747 guy/gal who has 30 years of experience. Sorry for not spell checking previous post.
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Would you choose a highly trained and experienced doctor or the surgeon who was under the new rules where medical school is 6 ten minute youtube videos?
You don't need to answer. We know how guys like you operate.
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