CE-680 co-captain 4 years with company
Flew 210 hours
Around 40 nights away from home
All expenses paid on the road.
Have to be available 24/7
$74,000

 

Virgin
6th yr FO

Living in base 90%+ flying was 2-day transcon trips about 11-12 blk hrs each. 6-8 times per month, less with vacation. Bid 2 months on reserve at min guarantee. Typical lineholder month was fly 13-16 days, off for 15-18 days. Vacation months were more days off and less block. Nights away from home about 6-8/month average.

$146k gross
$4800 per diem
$15,572 401K (my contribution 7786, rest company)

 

JetBlue 4th year 190 FO rate.
Commuter, bid overnights at home and play the broken pairing game in my local airports. CKA bidding was ineffective this year due to low training on equipment.
Avg 4 overnights per month including the pad.
Avg 17-18 off
644 block
1000 credit from my efforts for pay of $108k
additional:
10k profit sharing
5k perdiem
3k of robbing peter to pay paul(small amount of PTO sell back)
14k of company 401k match/contribution

Total of 140k

 

SWA
Just over 2 years on property
737 FO Cartel of One
817 block (3 months <45 block)
193.1K Total Gross Pay
7.74K Per Diem
25.9K NEC B Fund
21.2K 11% ??? Profit Sharing (some say 14+%)
247.94K Total Compensation

I've got no agenda in posting this other than I know guys look at SWA as a stale peanut backwards Texas airline that you'll only fly NB 73s, take forever to upgrade, and is past its prime. I'd beg to differ. The place definitely has its issues, but all in all the CAs fly very safe/standard, the pilot Group looks out for the junior segment, employee groups treat each other very well, the CPs take care of folks, the Training is getting way better, and if you don't mind working, you can be very productive for you/your family with your time at work.

There's a lot of rah rah burn it down you'll hear and read just like anywhere, and I even throw a log or three on that fire from time to time myself. And it certainly has its points to improve (go Casey and the NC) but it sounds/feels like the Pilot Group is galvanizing as a Group towards C2020 to address some of the loopholes and crew Scheduling practices. On the JS with other airlines, and hearing those perspectives, I feel fortunate to have the SWAPA 2.0 we have NOW, not the old SWAPA, and definitely not ALPA, 1224, etc.

Bottom Line is if that PS burps above 11%...I don't know of too many any other places you can tap on 250k in total comp your 2nd year. Hope this encourages some good guys (91/135, corporate, acmi, regional, mil) to keep their apps updated here.

1st year guys bid straight if you need too. You'll eventually 117 limit yourself though. Then when you get your 2nd year pay raise you'll see the wah wah no soup for you messages as your straight time bidding catches up to you with 117 limitations. Ensure you leverage:

-If awarded a Trip at Premium it pays 2nd year too

-Monthly Open Time (MOT)is generally low seniority competition, easy way to pick up 2nd year pay

-a trip picked up from MOT will have a /M. After ELITT opens you can trade that Trip "up" from a 2 or 3 day to a 3 or 4 day. It'll still keep the /M and pay second year

-any trip you pick up after it's awarded to a reserve ( (AR) on the Open Time Awards report ) pays at 2nd year IF it was run through the open time process. So watch when DOT closes at 0900. If you don't get the Trip you want and it was assigned to a reserve, call sked, verify it was run through the open time process, and snag that Trip. Text your bro afterwards.

Plus all this and if you fly with most (not all) former F-Teeners you'll get FREE flight instruction ��

 

SWA
Just over 2 years on property
737 FO Cartel of One
817 block (3 months <45 block)
193.1K Total Gross Pay
7.74K Per Diem
25.9K NEC B Fund
21.2K 11% ??? Profit Sharing (some say 14+%)
247.94K Total Compensation

I've got no agenda in posting this other than I know guys look at SWA as a stale peanut backwards Texas airline that you'll only fly NB 73s, take forever to upgrade, and is past its prime. I'd beg to differ. The place definitely has its issues, but all in all the CAs fly very safe/standard, the pilot Group looks out for the junior segment, employee groups treat each other very well, the CPs take care of folks, the Training is getting way better, and if you don't mind working, you can be very productive for you/your family with your time at work.

There's a lot of rah rah burn it down you'll hear and read just st like anywhere, and I even throw a log on that fire from time to time myself. And it certainly has its points to improve (go Casey and the NC) but it sounds/feels like the Pilot Group is galvanizing as a Group towards C2020 to address some of the loopholes and crew Scheduling practices. In JS with other airlines, and hearing those perspectives, I feel fortunate to have the SWAPA 2.0 we have NOW, not the old SWAPA, and definitely not ALPA, 1224, etc.

Bottom Line is if that PS burps above 11%...I don't know of too many any other places you can tap on 250k in total comp your 2nd year. Hope this encourages some good guys (91/135, corporate, acmi, regional, mil) to keep their apps updated here.

 

1) Airline employer: United
2) Seat: First Officer
3) Equipment: 737
4) Years of Service with company: 10/11
5) How many days you worked: 150
6) How many overnights you had: 110
7) How many hours you blocked: 742
8) How many hours did you credit: 1,130
9) Expected gross income: $221,000
10) Extra Pay (DC, PS, etc.): $32K B-fund; $21K PS; $7K per diem

 

You tweaked your F-teen instructing portion out

Nice take-home. Question. It looks like you added per diem to total gross... no? Also, are you adding estimated 2018 paid PS to 2017 actual pay?

 

SWA FO
year 1/2 (half n half)
99 nights in a hotel, i bid/trade into trips that pass through my home city(an extra 10 nights at home), also live within driving distance of my base.
1574 trip for pay credit (1370 hours)
862 block flown

$137k
$19k NEC into 401k
PS TBD, but 12% would be another $16.4 into 401k

Total comp: est $182k

 

Airline employer: Delta
Seat: Captain
Equipment: 717
Years of Service with company: 3
How many hours you blocked: 558 (All RSV)
Expected gross income: $264,479 including $32,400 PS
Extra Pay (DC, PS, etc.): $36K B-fund $6K DC excess cash $6.5K per diem

 

That's a lotta hours for a Delta reserve?