Originally Posted by Lugar

If we don’t have at least 72 hours notice, I’m presumed off. He can ask us to fly with less than 72 hours notice, but we aren’t obligated to do the trip; we can hire contract if need be

Originally Posted by BobZ

Had the delta pilots swallowed the first ta pushed by our cba experts....odds are the nunbers in this discussion would have been measurably less attractive.

Originally Posted by kingairfun

No kidding..... We benefitted greatly on the timing of Delta and United contract. Our management scoffed at $250/hr for widebody Cpt... Delta and United sign, a year later our narrowbodies are near $250/hr....

Muchos gracias Big D/United

Originally Posted by Imapilot2

I've noticed or at least it seems to me that the way you speak of Alpa is in the form of they. Not that you specifically said it but that's the way you seem to refer to it. Remember WE are Alpa. If you want to call it some new fancy name and hire some new guys in to run it mark my words a few years down the road it'll smell exactly the same as what we have now, possibly worse but I doubt better.
Then we will have tens of thousands of less members behind us.

For ME 1.95 % is a steal for what I feel I get for it. I would never have the ability or expect much more than what I get out of these guys for 1.95.
Do I think Alpa is perfect? No but it's pretty darn good. No other airline in the United States of America gets better performance out of thier in house union then Alpa has done for me after 20 years.

Originally Posted by jumppilot

Yes, ALPA is a member-driven organization. If people thought they were being charged too much in dues, or wanted to limit the amount of dinner and open bars a previous poster mentioned, we could pass resolutions at our LEC meetings and have them progress to the Executive Council or BOD if needed.

I've been to many ALPA events, some that involve open bars, and feel my money is being well spent. Spending money to keep events fluid, conversation going, and keep people fed is an appropriate allocation of funds, in my view. Especially for the volunteers who work tirelessly on our behalf. Anyone can volunteer and participate. Raise your hand and you're in - I guarantee it.

The biggest threat I see is a potential dues reduction and how that will effect the OCF. We need as much money in that as possible for the inevitable downturn that will happen. The OCF kept ALPA alive post-9/11.

Originally Posted by trustbutverify

Fair enough. Here are some points you and the other ALPA attack dogs might want to consider.

- The fact that Phuz is a 3 year CA allowing that salary has as much to do with DL's fleet choices and schedules on those fleets. UAL is an ALPA shop - do you have 3 year CA's making that salary?

- 1.95% is too much. ALPA is not immune to the tendency of large organizations with an income stream to become bloated and waste money. Problem is, that's my money they are wasting. If ALPA had a surplus before the last round of contracts, they're surely running even more of a surplus now with the new pay rates and profit sharing programs... that is unless they are wasting more of my money.

- The "gift horse" that you refer to might be more accurately called "paid representation" - a gift is something given for free, and we know that ain't ALPA. That paid representation at DALPA tried their best to shove a crappy TA down our throats before membership had to take action and correct the ship. Those guys were being advised by ALPA lawyers and financial experts BTW - paid for by my dues $. So forgive me for disagreeing with your "gift horse" analogy. Phuz mentioned he's been a dues paying member for 10 years prior at a regional. I'd say he paid his dues for said "gift horse" applenty.

There's a problem when a large organization tries to suppress dissent. So maybe you and the other snarky posters should back up a few paces and try to consider what Phuz is saying.

Originally Posted by trustbutverify

Maybe some transparency wrt ALPA finances would be in order. There's a glossy self-promotion magazine that ALPA sends to me that gets promptly sent to the recycle bin. How about ALPA publishes a quarterly financial report in that overpriced waste of paper on a quarterly basis including salaries and benefits of all of the ALPA employees? I would definitely read that and it would be a good use of member resources.

Originally Posted by raisins

1) USAF
2) Instr
3) C-17s
4) Been in 8+ years
5) 282 Working days
6) 2.5 months worth of overnights....all in a row
7) 300ish flight hrs
8) (How many hours did you credit) NA
Total Pay 99k