Atlas
3 year FO
B767
210 days worked (always bid to max schedule and do training on days off since training on days on is unpaid). Add another 15-20 days worked for gateway. Last time I came home I felt like I had to ask my room mate for perimission to come in my own house.
210 overnights.
Block 400 hours.
Gross just over $75,000
13K in per diem
3500 401k match
$36 profit sharing

Living large. Trying to leave. Flabbergasted and disgusted by the numbers in this thread!! (It’s a good thread though).

 

1) Airline employer: Spirit
2) Seat: CA
3) Equipment: A320
4) Years of Service with company: 10
5) How many days you worked: 155
6) How many overnights you had: 130? (commute)
7) How many hours you blocked: 723
8) Gross income: $190,500
9) 401k match: $16,600
10) Total: $207,100

There seems to be a hole in my pocket. I'm missing about $150,000.

 

1) Airline employer: United
2) Seat: FO
3) Equipment: 756
4) Years of Service with company: 3
5) How many days you worked: 72
6) How many overnights you had: ? Live in base on RSV
7) How many hours you blocked: 285 hours flown
8) Gross income: $145,000
9) 401k match: $22,200
10) Total: $167,200

12,500 additional in Profit sharing ($179,200)

Try to get as many paid short calls as possible and fly the least amount. My goal was to fly under 250 hours. Reset the clock

 

1) Airline employer - United
2) Seat - FO
3) Equipment - Narrowbody
4) Years of Service with company - 4
5) How many days you worked - ?
6) How many overnights you had - ~ 80
7) How many hours you blocked - ~ 586
8) How many hours did you credit - ~ 915
9) Expected gross income - ~ 145,000 Regular Flight Pay + 7,000 Per Diem
401k & Extra Pay - ~ 23,000 Company Contributions to 410k + ~ 16,000 Profit Sharing + ~ 900 Grievance / Pay Audit + 750 Performance Bonus
10) Total = Approximately $192,650

 

Good point. Best thread I've seen in years as it provides perspective from the guy 'in the other lane'. Human nature to always gauge relative position with others in other companies, career choices, etc. Just seeing actual numbers vs. pay scale deciphering is very enlightening.

From my perspective as a former cubicle dweller, aging professionals don't worry so much about medical issues as they do becoming victims of never-ending cost cuts and downsizing. Bean-counters gone wild. Every. day. No contract or seniority to protect you against the increasing probability of being replaced by 'Dave' in New Delhi or energetic/ambitious/attractive/cheaper/productive (insert trendy name here) young college graduates. Seemed every time I turned around another 'mature career professional' was leaving in tears with a cardboard box, escorted by security. Good luck getting hired in your 50s. If you are lucky, don't expect to make near what you made at your old gig.

Personally, I'll take my chances with the flight doc over greedy CEOs and their henchmen accountants ANY day. Nice knowing a contract protects me from arbitrarily being replaced to meet a cost target. Our profession may come with it's share of risks, hassles and disappointments, not to mention furloughs, but i wouldn't trade our contractual raises, seniority system, or income for anything. I was there, busting my tail 60-80 hours a week, and yes, living in hotels, saw the ugly realities and, instead of whining about pilot compensation, took the (very) scary step to bail mid-career and become one. I knew what life could be like over here. Scary step; suffered the lean years, furloughed, worked side jobs to cover the rent, blah blah, but in the end, it paid off.

After having lived and seen both, there's no comparison for me. No bed of roses getting here, not all unicorns and rainbows when you do finally get here, but a far side better than the previous career I and many others aspired to. No regrets. JMHO.

"Up in the air', great movie about the realities of being outsourced/replaced during your 'profitable' years.

 

1) Airline employer - JetBlue
2) Seat - FO
3) Equipment - A320/321
4) Years of Service with company - 12+
5) How many days you worked - ?
6) How many overnights you had - ~10
7) How many hours you blocked - 832
8) How many hours did you credit - ~1400
9) Expected gross income - ~ $234,000 includes $16,500 in PS
Additional ~$28000 in company 401k contribution. Total of $262,000

 

11 year United 787 FO.
Live in base bid reserve most months.
No premium pay pickups or volunteering.
Flew 191 hrs. (about 90 of those in the bunk)
235k pay plus 23k profit share plus 37k b plan.
Living the lazy man's dream.

 

Year 2/3 United 756 FO
Paternity leave from Jan-May (zero earnings)
Days worked ~ 90
Overnights ~ 80
Blocked ~ 280
Credit ~ 490
Gross 94,000
Company contribution ~ $14,000
Profit Sharing ~ $8500
Total Earnings approximately ~$116,500

 

Winner.....


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There's hardly a person here that wouldn't leave tomorrow without even letting them know if they had a job offer elsewhere.