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jackcarls0n 01-18-2018 01:07 AM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2502667)
Why stay? Are you legal to work in the US?

Yes, I am legal to work in the US. Waiting to graduate from the University in May, and plan to attend few job fairs. I remember HR Cheif at JB- MR. RF mentioning I need at least 5000 hours.

Overseas is good only if you are trying to get away from the regional.

I do have a job offer from a non-regional airline in US that flies 744. Will be joining them in few months.

jackcarls0n 01-18-2018 01:09 AM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 2502810)
I thought the carriers over there were paying well because they couldn’t find pilots?!?

They are, but not as much as you would think. EVA's pay is much higher, considering the cost of living is much cheaper compared to HK and UAE. The pay is high in Mainland China, where a captain makes about 20-30K. But even that compared to mainline FO is not that high!

They make you work for every penny they pay you!

Sniper66 01-19-2018 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by 130shadow (Post 2504686)
UAL FO 777

- lives in base
- 305k (includes per diem and profit sharing)
- 44k company put into B/C fund
-349k total





What year pay rate
Similar at Delta 12 year FO pay however 17 percent PS

130shadow 01-19-2018 07:33 AM

224.50/hr....

ArmyFW 01-19-2018 12:10 PM

Are these numbers including union dues?

navigatro 01-19-2018 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by ArmyFW (Post 2506736)
Are these numbers including union dues?

they are gross pay numbers.

BTW most union dues in the airline industry are about 1-2%, give or take

Spicy McHaggis 01-19-2018 01:24 PM

2017 W2 Earnings
 
Another data point here.


1) Airline employer: UAL, about ~60-65% overall company seniority

2) Seat: FO, about ~70% in my BES

3) Equipment: 777

4) Years of Service with company: 12 yr

5) How many days you worked: 116*

6) How many overnights you had: I had two day trips, the rest had overnights. Most were 4day trips with a few 2day domestic trips, a couple 3day international and one 7day extravaganza which I traded to on purpose.

7) How many hours you blocked: 853

8) How many hours did you credit: 1235

9) Expected gross income: ~$279,500

10) Extra Pay (DC, PS, etc.):

10a) DC: ~$43,000
10b) PS: ~$30,500
10c) Etc: ~$6,600 for PerDiem and ~$1,500 or so for what I assume
to be on time perf and what not.

Total, more or less: ~$360k


*The details:
- I live local to my base.

- I bid reserve for the Dec bid period that is included in the 2017 pay to get Xmas off and didn't work a single day that month.

- Some of my trips have very late shows and early finishes (9pm starts and 5am finishes). Those can be considered days off to some, myself included. Including those days as days on increases my days worked by about 13 days. That being said, if those are considered days worked, then anyone who commutes in a day before or home the day after a trip should include those commuting days as work.

- Most of my flying is long haul international. We are on break for about 40-45% of the total block of the trip. Watching movies or sleeping.



Interesting thread as always. I know some considering it a measuring contest, but if I were outside looking in I'd want to see some snapshots of different airlines and what people are making at different seniority levels and fleets. You can also see what guys make if they are busting butt or what they're making if they're doing 250hrs a year. Taking the hourly rate and moving the decimal place over three spots doesn't really give the whole picture.

Spicy McHaggis 01-19-2018 02:29 PM

After the edit window I realized my year total block was incorrect. Should be 802hrs, not 853hrs.

blizzue 01-19-2018 03:15 PM

Yea. That. I want that.

VSTOLG4 01-19-2018 03:23 PM

757 FO year 6 commuter
180 block
100 overnights (about 9 per month)
$170k normal line
$30k overtime/draft (a few LCA buy off and flew draft)
$17k B fund
$11k A fund (dividing $130k payout by 12)
$7k per diem
$500 401k match

$235.5k

I fly almost 100% nights and with a large cargo can full of nasty HAZMAT on nearly every flight. Oh not to mention the radioactive, biohazard, and explosives in the back. Im not sure my compensation is all that great in the grand scheme of things. Our 757 pay rate sucks.


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