Fair enough. Here are some points you and the other ALPA attack dogs might want to consider.

- The fact that Phuz is a 3 year CA allowing that salary has as much to do with DL's fleet choices and schedules on those fleets. UAL is an ALPA shop - do you have 3 year CA's making that salary?

- 1.95% is too much. ALPA is not immune to the tendency of large organizations with an income stream to become bloated and waste money. Problem is, that's my money they are wasting. If ALPA had a surplus before the last round of contracts, they're surely running even more of a surplus now with the new pay rates and profit sharing programs... that is unless they are wasting more of my money.

- The "gift horse" that you refer to might be more accurately called "paid representation" - a gift is something given for free, and we know that ain't ALPA. That paid representation at DALPA tried their best to shove a crappy TA down our throats before membership had to take action and correct the ship. Those guys were being advised by ALPA lawyers and financial experts BTW - paid for by my dues $. So forgive me for disagreeing with your "gift horse" analogy. Phuz mentioned he's been a dues paying member for 10 years prior at a regional. I'd say he paid his dues for said "gift horse" applenty.

There's a problem when a large organization tries to suppress dissent. So maybe you and the other snarky posters should back up a few paces and try to consider what Phuz is saying.

Had the delta pilots swallowed the first ta pushed by our cba experts....odds are the nunbers in this discussion would have been measurably less attractive. :)

What's keeping you? I'm sure you can donate as much as you like.

who said eliminate the union?

If all you guys love ALPA so much, why not just give them 50% of your earnings? Having a union is an extremely valuable service and I'm glad to pay for it, but the current rate has resulted in ALPA having excess money. Any organization with excess money will spend the money as if it's excess, it's the nature of any organization to do so. We need to right size our dues, once that's done I don't think you'll see any reasonable complaints.

I've noticed or at least it seems to me that the way you speak of Alpa is in the form of they. Not that you specifically said it but that's the way you seem to refer to it. Remember WE are Alpa. If you want to call it some new fancy name and hire some new guys in to run it mark my words a few years down the road it'll smell exactly the same as what we have now, possibly worse but I doubt better.
Then we will have tens of thousands of less members behind us.

For ME 1.95 % is a steal for what I feel I get for it. I would never have the ability or expect much more than what I get out of these guys for 1.95.
Do I think Alpa is perfect? No but it's pretty darn good. No other airline in the United States of America gets better performance out of thier in house union then Alpa has done for me after 20 years.

Instead of telling us all what's wrong with our beliefs why don't you tell us the answers to fixing all the problems that you so eloquently point out we are mistakenly accepting. Is your only solution to all these problems giving them less money? Wow us with your expertise please.

are we in the same universe? what problems did i eloquently point out? what beliefs did I belittle? oh that's right, none and none. the problem i pointed out was alpa has too much money, my solution is to give them less money. is this really a hard concept to understand?

I’m not talking about donating a thing. I don’t mind paying the vig when I’m winning...and right now we are all winning. I also want ALPA to be strong. That requires a healthy war chest.

People point out the bloated payroll and the 5 martini lunches of all the ALPA National folks...maybe there is a tinge of truth to it, but I suspect it’s closer to urban legend.

It’s a strawman argument to say “donate if you’re so happy”. (Which I do, with PAC donations) The argument is not “I want to give my personal money to ALPA” the argument is “don’t complain about paying 2% when you’re getting 20% more than you would without a union

Silly rabbit.

And you determine this oh wise one because you are a CPA and you went through the entire balance sheet of the ALPA organization. Or it's because numerous times you've seen "fat cats" with all of our money pouring out of their pockets..... getting rich off our dime because you've seen this firsthand? There has to be some fun or incentive to do the job. No one's going to volunteer to do the work and get nothing out of it. You're nothing but a sheep that believes online stories and tries to speak about them as if it was hard knowledge of your own that you witnessed. It's childish to think there's not going to be some waste in large organizations.
I'd rather you just say thank you and went about your way otherwise I suggest you pick up a volunteer position and stand the post. 😎

It's not me who says ALPA is collecting too much in dues money, it's the Delta MEC. The Delta MEC has passed 3 resolutions since 2015 to petition national to reduce dues as a result of increased pilot salaries. If you are a DAL employee you can look up agenda item 17-40 from the meetings held between 20-24 March 2017.