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Old 10-29-2013, 07:14 AM
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All the FO's from page 1 are now captains or soon to be and glad that they have the extra 5 years now!
A-hahaha... ha.. <sniff> Thanks for the chuckle, I needed that.

Mega-stagnation while all the CA's who lost all their $$ investing in a car wash franchise or tweaky mining ventures tried to recoup some small portion of it.

I still plan on going at 60 or earlier because I invested early, and prudently, in my career.
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A-hahaha... ha.. <sniff> Thanks for the chuckle, I needed that.

Mega-stagnation while all the CA's who lost all their $$ investing in a car wash franchise or tweaky mining ventures tried to recoup some small portion of it.

I still plan on going at 60 or earlier because I invested early, and prudently, in my career.
Everytime I read this stuff I have to laugh. Am I going to 60? no, part of that is just luck. What people like foreverfo don't understand is not all that are going to age 60 are captains. Many fo I fly with are over 60 and not because they are bad at investing, or bought a car wash franchise but because the airline they started with is no longer with us, yes they struck at eal, cal and so on yes for you forevefo and they ended up starting over at ual or wherever at the bottom. Great guys but yes maybe a little unlucky or maybe with a backbone you nevere had.

You do realize the 78-79 guys at ual had their a plan taken or given away, yes I realize that most are not as smart and as great at investing like yourself foreverfo, but some of this came down to luck and timing and yes standing up for our profession along the way.
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Old 10-29-2013, 07:56 AM
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syd, obviously there are plenty of guys I empathize with. Multiple furloughs, bankruptcy, stagnation, horrendous health issues, etc.

But along with those come the majority... the guy with four divorces, the guy who thinks he deserves to own and fly a warbird or a yacht or a vacation home in Barbados. The greedy. $2 million is not enough, he wants $3 million.

And yes, the guy who made outrageous investment decisions. Or none at all.

Too bad we can't interview each guy at 60 and say "You deserve 5 more years, but you don't"
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Old 10-29-2013, 08:19 AM
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Age 65 didn't give everyone 5 more years at the top. It gave everyone 5 more years where they were. For those at the top of the food chain, it was great. For everyone else, not so much.
Probably the most dead-on accurate post anywhere on this site.
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Old 10-29-2013, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ForeverFO View Post
syd, obviously there are plenty of guys I empathize with. Multiple furloughs, bankruptcy, stagnation, horrendous health issues, etc.

But along with those come the majority... the guy with four divorces, the guy who thinks he deserves to own and fly a warbird or a yacht or a vacation home in Barbados. The greedy. $2 million is not enough, he wants $3 million.

And yes, the guy who made outrageous investment decisions. Or none at all.

Too bad we can't interview each guy at 60 and say "You deserve 5 more years, but you don't"
I don't think that is the majority but hey whatever works for you.
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Old 10-29-2013, 08:41 AM
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This thread should be entitled "Get out of my seat."
Yup, and there's a Song (and a great band!) for that!

"They'll never care about you 'cause you're old and in the way..."

If you like bluegrass music and haven't heard this album yet, here it is, in full, you can skip ahead to 9:05 to hear the song, "Old and in the Way".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16EYejUic_0

In my freshman year of college I met my first Dead Head, he turned me on to this album and it's still one of my favorites. I love Vassar Clements on the fiddle!
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Old 10-29-2013, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ForeverFO View Post
syd, obviously there are plenty of guys I empathize with. Multiple furloughs, bankruptcy, stagnation, horrendous health issues, etc.

But along with those come the majority... the guy with four divorces, the guy who thinks he deserves to own and fly a warbird or a yacht or a vacation home in Barbados. The greedy. $2 million is not enough, he wants $3 million.

And yes, the guy who made outrageous investment decisions. Or none at all.

Too bad we can't interview each guy at 60 and say "You deserve 5 more years, but you don't"
Sounds like that might be true for AA pilots, they haven't lost their pensions...yet.

Nobody I know at Delta has any of that stuff anymore! Hell, I'm a 777 Captain with 4 kids in college, I can't afford to pay... attention!

My retirement plan consists of consuming a bottle of Jack and then taking a fast ride on a Harley. As long as it's quick and painless.
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Originally Posted by ForeverFO View Post
...But along with those come the majority... the guy with four divorces, the guy who thinks he deserves to own and fly a warbird or a yacht or a vacation home in Barbados. The greedy. $2 million is not enough, he wants $3 million....
And the only way we will ever have peace in this world is when all the wealth is distributed evenly. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

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...Too bad we can't interview each guy at 60 and say "You deserve 5 more years, but you don't"
Instead of a decision board to determine who goes to the glue factory when, we should convene a decision board to determine who needs your money more than you do. Then, once all the wealth is distributed evenly, our world will enter a new age of peace and prosperity.

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Old 10-29-2013, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Hetman View Post
Instead of a decision board to determine who goes to the glue factory when, we should convene a decision board to determine who needs your money more than you do. Then, once all the wealth is distributed evenly, our world will enter a new age of peace and prosperity.
I thought we already had that, I think it's called the US Tax Code, along with the Alternative Minimum Tax, just in case you thought you were going to keep that last raise!
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And the only way we will ever have peace in this world is when all the wealth is distributed evenly. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.



Instead of a decision board to determine who goes to the glue factory when, we should convene a decision board to determine who needs your money more than you do. Then, once all the wealth is distributed evenly, our world will enter a new age of peace and prosperity.
Nicely stated Heman.
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