I agree with Qots.
My job is to fly the plane. I have not gone through the hours and days of touchy-feely training that the airline conflict officers have been through. I leave all that work up to them. I don’t move bags from the cart to the cargo bin. I don’t fix a failed igniter. I don’t fuel the airplane. I fly the plane. When the airplane is ready to leave, let me know and I’ll do my job. |
Originally Posted by IwasInverted
(Post 2644694)
I agree, don’t leave the cockpit, but assuming the passenger was not obeying the fa instructions I have no problem with what he said or how he said it. Definitely nothing racist in that video.
It's 2018, in this climate there is no reason for any pilot ever to leave his seat to deal with a passenger on the ground. It's not our job, it's not our responsibility and we certainly aren't trained to. There are however people whom are and they should be the ones that deal with these things. |
Some pilots like the internet exposure though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI-ONN1yfVA Any thoughts on how this could bode for one's career? I'm personally not criticizing this guy but it doesn't seem wise. |
Originally Posted by CrispyBacon
(Post 2644713)
No he is required to call for a red coat to deal with disruptive passengers. Getting involved is NOT his job at Delta
You will also find redcoats only at the larger domestic stations. |
Originally Posted by Floobs
(Post 2644743)
And then you'll end up on YouTube.
It's 2018, in this climate there is no reason for any pilot ever to leave his seat to deal with a passenger on the ground. It's not our job, it's not our responsibility and we certainly aren't trained to. There are however people whom are and they should be the ones that deal with these things. |
Originally Posted by FMGEC
(Post 2644741)
I agree with Qots.
My job is to fly the plane. I have not gone through the hours and days of touchy-feely training that the airline conflict officers have been through. I leave all that work up to them. I don’t move bags from the cart to the cargo bin. I don’t fix a failed igniter. I don’t fuel the airplane. I fly the plane. When the airplane is ready to leave, let me know and I’ll do my job. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 2644779)
I gather you don’t work at Delta. If you do I would review your procedures. The first line in those procedures states the Captain will make the final decision on the removal of any passenger.
You will also find redcoats only at the larger domestic stations. He is correct and you are correct. CA does have final decision, but the CRO should be called BEFORE CA makes final decision. |
I thought the captain handled himself well here. The captain is the inflight security coordinator not the CRO, and if she wants to fly, must obey orders delegated from him. He's simply giving her a stern warning if she wants to continue on the flight, which she was allowed to. Total nothing-burger...
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 2644781)
Each airline may have different procedures. At Delta it is the Captains job and he is required to make the final decision on the carriage of any passenger.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 2644781)
Each airline may have different procedures. At Delta it is the Captains job and he is required to make the final decision on the carriage of any passenger.
Btw I have zero issue with this captain’s words and I have no idea why it became a race issue. I can tell you he wouldn’t be on the Internet if he hadn’t gone back there. |
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